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Old 05-21-2008 | 04:47 PM
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Eagle is short on pilots per aircraft already. Who is the moron who said 600+ pilots will be affected. Good god. You dont even work at Eagle, you dont know their situation. Everyone just needs to calmmmm dowwwwnnnn.

I would say company wide, Eagle is short at least 200 pilots per the amount of aircraft as they operate right now. About 100 of shortage are FO's from ORD. So the infamous pilot shortage at Eagle is finally solved.

Lets not even take company retirements into this equation even though we already know Eagle has more old grumpy men than any other regional airline, and they spit out retirements in nearly triple digits each year.

Eagle's ALPA is grumpy too. They file grievance's like handing out candy to kids. Anyone who has worked there knows what im talking about. They'll find some way to lay heavy pressure on management (and we already know Eagle's management is numb to it by now). But again, we wont take that into this equation.

I would say given 35-40 airplanes being rolled off a cliff (since Eagle already tried the whole program where they would start selling 135's to convert into corporate jets, and no one was interested= FAILURE) that means they pretty much have to roll them off a cliff or park them in a desert... again it doesnt matter. We wont take that into the equation.

I would say 35-40 planes gone given the shortage would equel to about 100 too many pilots, or less. What are you going to do with them? Send them to the street? Knowing AMR, I would say YES!!! ... in a heartbeat!!! They wouldnt think twice... good ol AMR.

But then again, we'll see what really happens.

Good luck to you all. We all know one thing, AMR plans ahead, I am sure we'll see a shakeup for the rest of the industry to follow shortly.

RANT OVER.

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Old 05-22-2008 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
Eagle is short on pilots per aircraft already. Who is the moron who said 600+ pilots will be affected. Good god. You dont even work at Eagle, you dont know their situation. Everyone just needs to calmmmm dowwwwnnnn.

I would say company wide, Eagle is short at least 200 pilots per the amount of aircraft as they operate right now. About 100 of shortage are FO's from ORD. So the infamous pilot shortage at Eagle is finally solved.

Lets not even take company retirements into this equation even though we already know Eagle has more old grumpy men than any other regional airline, and they spit out retirements in nearly triple digits each year.

Good luck to you all. We all know one thing, AMR plans ahead, I am sure we'll see a shakeup for the rest of the industry to follow shortly.

RANT OVER.
AMR plans ahead??? AMR has to be the most reactionary airline out there. Definitely not an insightful or innovative company, at least not since Crandall's departure.

And as for retirements, you forget that the new age 65 fiasco means no more forced retirements for another 5 years. Zero.

Good luck to all of you Eagle guys and gals.
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Old 05-22-2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IQuitEagle
AMR plans ahead??? AMR has to be the most reactionary airline out there. Definitely not an insightful or innovative company, at least not since Crandall's departure.

And as for retirements, you forget that the new age 65 fiasco means no more forced retirements for another 5 years. Zero.

Good luck to all of you Eagle guys and gals.

Yeah AA doesnt plan ahead. They have no real growth plans and all of the other majors already announced reductions so AA is just now joining the party.
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Old 05-22-2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Yea and Greyhound isn't even hiring...
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Old 05-22-2008 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Is LAX being reduced at all?
I am confident that base will be closed.
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Old 05-22-2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
If any Eagle pilot would like info on Pinnacle Airlines, please PM me, good luck to all involved.
Just the phone number of the gal that likes to party on overnights...
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Old 05-23-2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Yeah AA doesnt plan ahead. They have no real growth plans and all of the other majors already announced reductions so AA is just now joining the party.
AMR has been reducing capacity for a loooong time. Growth is not a smart plan right now. Other majors have been expanding domestically and internationally, and now are scrambling to cut back schedules ASAP. I'm going out on a limb and saying that AMR has some financially smart people there with an accurate outlook on the economy, but the industry as a whole can't survive with oil at $130+/bbl.
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Old 05-23-2008 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotorhead
I am confident that base will be closed.

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Old 05-23-2008 | 09:55 AM
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Feel bad for those FO's that just upgraded. loosing 30 airplanes they will have to downgrade people. hopefully not to many
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Old 05-23-2008 | 12:54 PM
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Eagle has always been understaffed. For anyone that thinks that parking jets will solve staffing problems you can look at it two ways.

1.Eagle is coping with the shortage so why change it.
2.Only furlough enough pilots after parking everything to keep the aircraft staffed nice and fat.

I doubt that 2 is an option. The company will furlough enough pilots to keep them satisfied so that they will "get by".

If you are at the bottom, get your resume's out their. This action might be planned a few months from now, but don't let it slip out your mind, cut backs are coming and there is possibly going to be some tough competition for you with high time guys on the street.

Run Forrest, run!
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