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Airsupport 06-04-2008 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Spooled (Post 396641)
Or did spooled upgrade recently?

Also if you have training in a month, pref bid screws you.

well congrats if you just upgraded. are you in dtw? i figure i will go for it in a few more months when i can gaurantee i dont have to sit reserve. and yes if you have training then pref bid will screw you. i cant wait till august though. i have one of my weeks of vacation then. i plan on putting all my bids so that i fly during that 12 day spread. than i will SLIDE it around and see if i can get most of the month off. but then again we will have to see if they will even follow the ruling for the july bid first. to bad the arbitrator didn't make them have a specific date when they had to start complying.

and what do you think of this. since non of us can see how the company is running the bids whats to stop them from plugging in the vacations before they run it, then after the results are done removing the vacation before posting it.

Spooled 06-04-2008 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 396469)
I am a little tired of hearing MSP based FOs complaining about deadheading to DTW and MEM all the time to fly...change your frigging base or quit whining about it. We're always welcoming down here in the dirty south.

I don't think they would be complaining if we got paid 100% for deadheads! If you think someone would change their base because of a deadhead, you're pretty clueless.
I hope you your next trip is full of deadheads...So you can see how it feels.

HIREME 06-04-2008 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 396434)
now come on spooled. if you are as senior as you say you are then there is no way you have just 1 day off in 9 unless you did it to yourself. drop me a pm and i will show you the magic that is pref bid. life is good and i can show you how!




we have several guys that commute from lax to dtw mem and msp. and they do just fine. you have to take what spooled says with a CAN of salt. :)

one day, if you need the money/want to move on, you will upgrade. Once you do, the "magic" of prefbid runs out and crew sched. will rule you for a few months. Lately it's been ok for me though

jelloy683 06-04-2008 06:58 AM

Are they rigid on the 1000/200 requirement?

Airsupport 06-04-2008 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 396652)
one day, if you need the money/want to move on, you will upgrade. Once you do, the "magic" of prefbid runs out and crew sched. will rule you for a few months. Lately it's been ok for me though

oh i plan on upgrading. my seniority is in the mid 600's so i should be able to get the vacancy i want (unless they stop upgrades). i will pick a class date that will be in the middle or beginning of the month. upgrade looks like it last 1 month and 2 weeks. so i should be done intime to bid for the next month. so if all goes according to plan, screw scheduling will only have me for 2 weeks.

HIREME 06-04-2008 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 396658)
oh i plan on upgrading. my seniority is in the mid 600's so i should be able to get the vacancy i want (unless they stop upgrades). i will pick a class date that will be in the middle or beginning of the month. upgrade looks like it last 1 month and 2 weeks. so i should be done intime to bid for the next month. so if all goes according to plan, screw scheduling will only have me for 2 weeks.

great idea...mid 600s should get you at least a high speed line. I prefer those anyway in order to be home every day.

rickB 06-04-2008 07:48 AM

how about commuting from charlotte?

mooney 06-04-2008 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 396469)
You can hold a CDO/hispeed line that is 100% commutable that gives you 10-11 days off within 2 months in Memphis. Look at the June '08 awards. There are people waaaaaay junior with 11-10 off, and that's 11-10 hard days off, as in your last day you're done at 8-9AMish and your first day you report at 6PMish (if you can even call them hispeeds out of Memphis anyways). Bottom line--you get 6-7 hours of sleep, so it's like a "hispeed light," and your 10 days off you will be at home, assuming you get a CDO line, which is easy to get right now.

The people I've heard complain are Memphis captains and MSP FOs Probably b/c those are senior bases for each as far as I know.

Seems like we're nearing well-staffed on the FO side. Plenty of new hires in the pipeline, and with the TDYs from MSP things seem to be balancing out.

I am a little tired of hearing MSP based FOs complaining about deadheading to DTW and MEM all the time to fly...change your frigging base or quit whining about it. We're always welcoming down here in the dirty south.

I'm not sure that I'd call a CDO line "commutable" any more that any other line. Sure, you start late on day 1 and finish early on last day, but you still are sitting at a crashpad for 10 hours a day 3-4 days a week with your thumb up your butt, unless you'd rather be sitting around in ops for 10 hours a day :eek:

So yes, you will have 10 hard days of a month at home, but you'll still need a crashpad on 1 year fo salary. It depends on which is the lesser of 2 evils for you.

Airsupport 06-04-2008 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 396731)
unless you'd rather be sitting around in ops for 10 hours a day :eek:


of course thats what i would rather do!! man listen, i don't know what goes on in the other bases but in mem you want to be in ops all day. once the push is done head into the tv room with the pool table. then just wait. pretty soon the rampers come in and you have a full fledged pool tournement going on. its fun watching them try to hustle eachother!!! ahahaha. that is until SG comes in and tells them this is the crew member area...

mooney 06-04-2008 08:29 AM

oh yeah and by the time he gets a job here we should have that cute masseuse down in ops.....happy ending anyone? :p


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