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Old 06-06-2008 | 02:52 PM
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Have you ever heard of the Rat King when all the rats tails get tied together and fuse together to form one huge rat.
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Old 06-06-2008 | 03:49 PM
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Personally, if you went to Mesa in the last 5 years.... you are just as bad as the management. ALPA or not, I would not recommend hiring you.

You guys fail to realize that the pilots willing to shortcut upgrade or work for the wages the Mesa pays are the reason your income has stalled at the unacceptable level it is currently at.

Nope.. no favors to Mesa employees. You should have walked off the job a long time ago.

I am all for an ALPA negotiated acceptable pay rate across the board based on aircraft. No matter what carrier you are under, if ALPA, management is put on notice of the fixed cost of the employee. That places management in the seat of providing the best benefits and reputation to draw in the best qualified pilot.
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Old 06-06-2008 | 03:57 PM
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self deleted post...

trying to cut back on flame.
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Old 06-06-2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CFDoubleeye
Personally, if you went to Mesa in the last 5 years.... you are just as bad as the management. ALPA or not, I would not recommend hiring you.

You guys fail to realize that the pilots willing to shortcut upgrade or work for the wages the Mesa pays are the reason your income has stalled at the unacceptable level it is currently at.

Nope.. no favors to Mesa employees. You should have walked off the job a long time ago.

I am all for an ALPA negotiated acceptable pay rate across the board based on aircraft. No matter what carrier you are under, if ALPA, management is put on notice of the fixed cost of the employee. That places management in the seat of providing the best benefits and reputation to draw in the best qualified pilot.
Flame. Feeling tough now that you most likely won't get furloughed now? You're ridiculous.
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Old 06-06-2008 | 06:51 PM
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The CFO at Independence Air abruptly quit about 3 months before we finally closed doors. When the money guy leaves and leaves his golden parachute at the table, its a bad sign.
good luck to you mesa pilots....kcuf j.o.,
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Old 06-06-2008 | 07:25 PM
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Na Na Naaaa Na, Hey Hey Hey, Good-by.

Regardless, good for him for getting out. I know he didn't help things but at least he said "to hell with you" JO, I'm out of here.

I wish the best for all those who are trying to ride the turbulent seas at Mesa with the hopes that one day someone will make JO walk the plank.

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Old 06-06-2008 | 08:11 PM
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Sorry Mesa guys....But I give it 3 months
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Old 06-06-2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CFDoubleeye
Personally, if you went to Mesa in the last 5 years.... you are just as bad as the management. ALPA or not, I would not recommend hiring you.

You guys fail to realize that the pilots willing to shortcut upgrade or work for the wages the Mesa pays are the reason your income has stalled at the unacceptable level it is currently at.

Nope.. no favors to Mesa employees. You should have walked off the job a long time ago.

I am all for an ALPA negotiated acceptable pay rate across the board based on aircraft. No matter what carrier you are under, if ALPA, management is put on notice of the fixed cost of the employee. That places management in the seat of providing the best benefits and reputation to draw in the best qualified pilot.
What a galactically ignorant post.
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Old 06-06-2008 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WhizWheel
What a galactically ignorant post.
Excellent
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Old 06-06-2008 | 11:14 PM
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This is the interem guy who took over for porno Murnane. He was never given the job permanantly. I wouldnt read too much into since Lotz is taking over the position. JO controls everyone in management.
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