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mooney 06-09-2008 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by saabguy493 (Post 400688)
If you think that way then I am sure you will be one of the first at the McDonalds next to the airport.

No he will go to Burger king. Burger King just signed a failsafe 10 year contract for Coca Cola products, while Mcd's is up for renewal, they are thinking of switching to a 3 year Pepsi contract.
Plus BK employees make 10 cents an hour more than McD's employees, if he went to McD he would be undercutting and labeled a scab.....
And HOW DARE McD's build a restaurant just down the road from BK! Anyone who accepts a job there are SCABS!!!!!!

now im starting to sound as ridiculous as some of the other posts:o

Airsupport 06-09-2008 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 400719)
Thats funny. You won't get a new contract till you put the screws to them. Sure doesn't sound like that is happening there. Don't expect a new president to get you a new contract. Once the ASA pilots put the screws to the operation, they got a contract

you would have to be blind to think thats why asa got their contract. give me a break. you know how long asa had been without a contract? do you know how long their performance numbers were the bottom of the industry? obviously you dont.

what got asa the contract was uncle jerry. he had just bought them and was tired of the discord over there. he even fired the ceo after all was said and done.

GATAM06 06-09-2008 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 400721)
No he will go to Burger king. Burger King just signed a failsafe 10 year contract for Coca Cola products, while Mcd's is up for renewal, they are thinking of switching to a 3 year Pepsi contract.
Plus BK employees make 10 cents an hour more than McD's employees, if he went to McD he would be undercutting and labeled a scab.....
And HOW DARE McD's build a restaurant just down the road from BK! Anyone who accepts a job there are SCABS!!!!!!

now im starting to sound as ridiculous as some of the other posts:o

Now that's funny!!:D

BlueMoon 06-09-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 400723)
you would have to be blind to think thats why asa got their contract. give me a break. you know how long asa had been without a contract? do you know how long their performance numbers were the bottom of the industry? obviously you dont.

what got asa the contract was uncle jerry. he had just bought them and was tired of the discord over there. he even fired the ceo after all was said and done.

5 years
yup, and they were worse in the last couple months of negotiations

Whatever you want to believe.

tpersuit 06-09-2008 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 400729)
5 years
yup, and they were worse in the last couple months of negotiations

Whatever you want to believe.

Don't bother with him, Moon, he won't believe what is true. He seriously thinks it was Jerry at Skywest that got them the contract. The reason ASA got the contract was because they started the Fly Safe campaign and put the screw to management. Gas costs a lot these days, hopefully the guys at Pinnacle can start to fly safe as well, I would guess a new contract in... 1 month.

POPA 06-09-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 400638)
I really don't understand your vendetta against 9E.

My guess: turned down for a job.

tpersuit 06-09-2008 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 400748)
My guess: turned down for a job.

You know POPA that makes perfect sense!

I really wanted a job there!

In all seriousness I only applied at Eagle and ExpressJet. QOL was the main factor in my book

cbram 06-09-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 400421)
let me put it another way for you...

I'm from UND, so as you know, I most likely am from Minnesota as well. Now I didn't want to go to Mesaba or Pinnacle so I waited until I could get on with ExpressJet/Skywest or whoever had decent pay. However, there are many people that went to UND who are complete aviation "tools", I know I used to be one until I was "awaken" to the reality of what regionals have been doing. UND does a horrible job at relaying the history of the regionals, probably because certain regionals would stop offering preferential hiring to our grads and thus reduce enrollment.


................we'll be the judge of that. hows the commute going tp?

nicholasblonde 06-09-2008 11:39 AM

I have plenty of friends at XJT and Eagle who called me in the last 2 months wanting to know if we're still hiring at 9E...because the XJT guys were worried about shutting down (a threat which is over for now) and the Eagle guys are worried about getting furloughed (a very real possibility).

As for our contract negotiations, I think a 99% strike vote and a labor-friendly President are a better bet in the current environment than a safety campaign...and even though ASA has great rates now, I'm not sure how they're gonna fare post-merger...precisely because they have great rates.

Survive through the merger, then get a new NMB, then go on a safety campaign or strike...that seems the most logical order of things to do right now. Go ahead and say I'm "contributing to the downward spiral."

Vingass 06-09-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 400757)
You know POPA that makes perfect sense!

I really wanted a job there!

In all seriousness I only applied at Eagle and ExpressJet. QOL was the main factor in my book

I agree with POPA... You probably got turned down by both 9e and XJ. I for one am glad you went to XJT, we have enough of your UND friends here at XJ. I now I've had my fill of being a LCA for no extra pay. Since we are currently offering TOWOP, maybe you could call up some of the people you know at XJ and invite them over to XJT- maybe they could use the extra money. That would make many long time XJ Pilots very happy!:D


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