How would ASA take an eventual "shake-off" from Delta?
06-16-2008 | 09:58 AM
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How would ASA take an eventual "shake-off" from Delta?
Being in their pool, I keep thinking about this one...
In what shape do you guys think ASA would be if Delta decides to make a move on them like they just did on Pinnacle?
What roll would Skywest take on it?
Just courious...
Cheers!
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In what shape do you guys think ASA would be if Delta decides to make a move on them like they just did on Pinnacle?
What roll would Skywest take on it?
Just courious...
Cheers!
FS
06-16-2008 | 10:10 AM
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I can't imagine that happening. It would seem like Delta would most likely keep 1 regional feed per airport than multiple ones. Since ASA is their largest feeder at ATL, I can't see them getting dropped. That seems to part of the case with Pinnacle in ATL. I guess they figure it would be cheaper to run all the feed they need in each individual airport by 1 regional instead of multiple ones.
06-16-2008 | 10:57 AM
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Nothing is guranteed for anyone.
However, i believe asa is delta's largest feeder period, and with that said it would be very hard to just cancel us like a pinnacle or mesa without some very very major changes. Plus, our performance numbers are much better compared to years past. A few months in a row now meeting or exceeding the contract numbers.
But again, anyone could be on the chopping block next. Only time will tell i guess.
Ps. supposedly asa has got some bids in for united flying....we will see how that goes.
However, i believe asa is delta's largest feeder period, and with that said it would be very hard to just cancel us like a pinnacle or mesa without some very very major changes. Plus, our performance numbers are much better compared to years past. A few months in a row now meeting or exceeding the contract numbers.
But again, anyone could be on the chopping block next. Only time will tell i guess.
Ps. supposedly asa has got some bids in for united flying....we will see how that goes.
06-16-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Nothing is guranteed for anyone.
However, i believe asa is delta's largest feeder period, and with that said it would be very hard to just cancel us like a pinnacle or mesa without some very very major changes. Plus, our performance numbers are much better compared to years past. A few months in a row now meeting or exceeding the contract numbers.
But again, anyone could be on the chopping block next. Only time will tell i guess.
Ps. supposedly asa has got some bids in for united flying....we will see how that goes.
However, i believe asa is delta's largest feeder period, and with that said it would be very hard to just cancel us like a pinnacle or mesa without some very very major changes. Plus, our performance numbers are much better compared to years past. A few months in a row now meeting or exceeding the contract numbers.
But again, anyone could be on the chopping block next. Only time will tell i guess.
Ps. supposedly asa has got some bids in for united flying....we will see how that goes.
06-16-2008 | 11:18 AM
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06-16-2008 | 12:17 PM
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DAL has some pretty tight contractual provisions with Skw Inc (which includes SKW and ASA). Presumably SKW Inc DOES know how to write a contract without loopholes (unlike some fly-by-night operations).
They made a deal which included flying guarantees when SKW bought ASA. DAL has to be especially careful with ASA...even if they were unhappy with ASA, they would probably not attempt to get rid of them unless they had an airtight legal case.
Selling off ASA and then firing them could look like fraud in a courtroom...ie they misrepresented the value of the company they were selling because that value depends on a long-term DAL flying contract.
It is also unlikely that SKW managers would allow ASA performance to drop low enought to meet termination criteria.
Ultimately I don't think DAL is firing regionals just because they missed performance numbers once. I think DAL is using performance as an excuse to thin it's ranks, but it already knows who it wants to get rid of and SKW/ASA are probably not on that list.
They made a deal which included flying guarantees when SKW bought ASA. DAL has to be especially careful with ASA...even if they were unhappy with ASA, they would probably not attempt to get rid of them unless they had an airtight legal case.
Selling off ASA and then firing them could look like fraud in a courtroom...ie they misrepresented the value of the company they were selling because that value depends on a long-term DAL flying contract.
It is also unlikely that SKW managers would allow ASA performance to drop low enought to meet termination criteria.
Ultimately I don't think DAL is firing regionals just because they missed performance numbers once. I think DAL is using performance as an excuse to thin it's ranks, but it already knows who it wants to get rid of and SKW/ASA are probably not on that list.
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06-16-2008 | 11:17 PM
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Heard in recurrent ground last week that United wanted some flying from ASA last year but our performance was awful so they didn't make a deal. Now that our numbers are better they are "interested" when the "time comes." Who knows. This from management, for what it's worth.
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