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Bond 06-25-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 412290)
cause they know by the time the "brotherhood" gets anything done they will be recalling..... maybe....

Please tell me you're kidding! I thought you guys had a great relationship with the reverend and his team?

That's unethical in so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. Best of luck to you guys, I hope they do the right thing.

OHSTFU 06-25-2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 412278)
Ok ok ok, someone please explain this to me. How can they get away with furloughing out of seniority? I know they tried to upgrade out of sequence, but you guys won in the end.

So pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't the teamsters have a pretty good leg to stand on for legal action if they try to get away with it????

Someone please educate me on this, cause it just doesn't seem possible to me!

Because for the first year you are on probation and not protected.

It sucks, but you can be terminated at any time, for any reason.

They did this after 9/11 when they needed to park the Saabs. There were 125 pilots that were terminated. Many, if not all, were senior to the jet guys.

The union fought it and lost.

Bond 06-25-2008 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by OH**** (Post 412307)
Because for the first year you are on probation and not protected.

It sucks, but you can be terminated at any time, for any reason.

They did this after 9/11 when they needed to park the Saabs. There were 125 pilots that were terminated. Many, if not all, were senior to the jet guys.

The union fought it and lost.

I understand the concept of being a first year f/o on probation as most of us were there at one point in our careers, but using that as a cost cutting measure....and out of seniority.....???

That's not very christian! I'm sorry but I'm in shock that a management team would do something so immoral.

The irony is that I always thought it was of great advantage to your company and you guys to have multiple certificates under the same umbrella.........so much for that.

Best of luck all the same to you guys, I hope you guys keep everyone.

OHSTFU 06-25-2008 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 412309)
I understand the concept of being a first year f/o on probation as most of us were there at one point in our careers, but using that as a cost cutting measure....and out of seniority.....???

That's not very christian! I'm sorry but I'm in shock that a management team would do something so immoral.

The irony is that I always thought it was of great advantage to your company and you guys to have multiple certificates under the same umbrella.........so much for that.

Best of luck all the same to you guys, I hope you guys keep everyone.

BB can spew all the moral christian BS he wants. The fact remains that their actions are what counts.

Check out our "Guiding Principals" Republic Airways

My favorite is the first one. :rolleyes:

ScaryKite 06-25-2008 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 412268)
i am in the loelw
1400s on the rah list and I am reenrolling in classes this fall to get another bachelor, Im not giving up just yet but just getting prepared. In 80 numbers frombthe most jr captain but I dont expect to upgrade for at least another two years! Mark my words we will furlogh 100 to 200 by the end of summer. And the really sad thing is they will do it illegally out of seniority just like the saab guys in 2001. Good luck

SK

sorry for all the grammatical errors! An iPhone and my fat fingers do not work well together

saabguy493 06-25-2008 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 412373)
sorry for all the grammatical errors! An iPhone and my fat fingers do not work well together

I hate the F&$%ing partiots trash team as well!!!!!!!

ToiletDuck 06-25-2008 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 412278)
Ok ok ok, someone please explain this to me. How can they get away with furloughing out of seniority? I know they tried to upgrade out of sequence, but you guys won in the end.

So pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't the teamsters have a pretty good leg to stand on for legal action if they try to get away with it????

Someone please educate me on this, cause it just doesn't seem possible to me!

First year you pay dues but aren't protected since you are on probation. The company can "no longer require your employment" for any reason they see fit. With the massive hiring boom that has taken place there's no reason they'll ever have to furlough. They can just FIRE the FOs on the certificates they need since there are plenty moved around.

Hey guys I'm all about optimism but yall are forgetting one thing. If a codeshare goes into BK then all bets are off just like with Frontier. If AMR and United go BK, though I don't see how United could really survive it, they can simply cancel all contracts. CAL's recent deal with XJT could be incentive for them to declare BK and drop CHQ. I know we'd all like to think we're safe but lets not kid ourselves. It's time to just kick back and watch the show.

cbire880 06-26-2008 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by OH**** (Post 412307)
Because for the first year you are on probation and not protected.

It sucks, but you can be terminated at any time, for any reason.

They did this after 9/11 when they needed to park the Saabs. There were 125 pilots that were terminated. Many, if not all, were senior to the jet guys.

The union fought it and lost.

IIRC, the Saab guys got their jobs back eventually. Wasn't there for it, so not really 100% sure though.

As far as that sort of treament, welcome to RAH. Family values so long as they don't affect the bottom line.


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