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meeko031 06-28-2008 04:01 PM

Eagle got 10 planes back but only 2 will end up in LA from the 5 projected. More bad news for LA guys, also losing Las Vegas end of Sept.

chignutsak 06-28-2008 04:09 PM

Yeah sure, everyone at Eagle is rejoicing...We're looking at a base closure(or two), all the Saabs parked, and 29 or so 135's parked. We're looking at 100-200 furloughs. Party on, morons.

bgmann 06-28-2008 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 413678)
My only beef with this is that I haven't heard anything from the union in the form of e-mail or any other mass communication. I had to hear about it on Yahoo! Finance. Gotta love the communication. Glad they were able to mitigate job loss. Makes me feel much better about where I sit. Now we get to wait for the details of the agreement....


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 413682)
How about actually sending an e-mail to us explaining the details of it instead of posting an identical press release on the ALPA site? Still peeved about it. Whatever though, there are bigger fish to fry.

I get ALPA newsletters very regularly. Like twice a week. If you want to stay informed you need to contact ALPA and get on their "mailing list". I feel I have been very well informed, I think I have always been ahead of USATODAY.com

Give it a try. Hope it helps.

bgmann 06-28-2008 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 413693)
Jesus Christ on a tricycle, get over it.
You peckerheads sound like a bunch of kids crying because Tommy won't share his digger toy.

Would you be saying the same thing if TSA gave "your" flying to another airline? If TSA gave "your" flying to Pinnacle (just picking one) and sold 10 of "your" aircraft to Pinnacle you would want to get "your" flights back, aircraft back, and may be sour towards Pinnacle.

Me personally am not sour towards TSA. I am more sour toward my mgt for doing it. The animosity between AE and TSA pilots i think is childish. It wasnt anything that was on "our" table to deal. i.e. out of our hands. We are just monkeys that drive the planes that overpaid white-collars give us.

Confused 06-28-2008 05:52 PM

Was the flying outsourced to TSA because Eagle couldnt staff them? Is that right or am I way off?

Rnav 06-28-2008 06:12 PM

I feel for the TSA guys. We as AE pilots are next to get furlough/displacement notices. This whole industry blows right now. We as pilots have to stick together against management who are the ones that play us against each other. No one I know is happy to see other pilots on the street. Good luck to us all!

JiffyLube 06-28-2008 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Confused (Post 414572)
Was the flying outsourced to TSA because Eagle couldnt staff them? Is that right or am I way off?

Your way off...

AE Pilots were on furlough at the time of the transfer... The transfer occured b/c of the APA Scope limit that froze the ASMs at the regionals feeding the AA code when APA pilots were on furlough. That's when the AX code was born. AA was to "FEED" AX, therefor bypassing the APA ASM Cap. APA later won this greivence and lifted the ASM cap in 2003 thus stoping the transfer of more 50 seat rj's (only 10 of the 15 planned went).

TRIPACER 06-28-2008 08:09 PM

It was not YOUR flying...it was MY flying....all MINE

SharkyBN584 06-28-2008 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Atreyu (Post 414494)
Why the harshness toward TSA the most I still don't understand. What about CHQ? Or are they cool in everyones book because they have such a great contract and all? :confused:

Probably cuz TSA has AMR airplanes and CHQ doesn't. And CHQ isn't violating Eagle's scope clause with their flying. All CHQ does is the flying that we used to do for TWA. That was protected with the same merger clause that's in all of our contracts when AA bought out TWA. And that's the 5th time I've had to explain that this week.

Salukipilot4590 06-28-2008 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 414664)
Probably cuz TSA has AMR airplanes and CHQ doesn't. And CHQ isn't violating Eagle's scope clause with their flying. All CHQ does is the flying that we used to do for TWA. That was protected with the same merger clause that's in all of our contracts when AA bought out TWA. And that's the 5th time I've had to explain that this week.

If I'm not grossly uneducated...didnt TSA do some TWE flying as well? You know...out of STL...back in the good ole days?


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