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JoeyMeatballs 07-05-2008 06:21 AM

I hope so, I would rather lose the battle at the regional level, so the Major guys win the war. The growth of the regional airline at the expense of a shrinking major IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. The regional pilots need to stop lowering the bar (do not except poor working conditions or crummy pay just to "secure" flying, and the Major guys need to STAND STRONG ON SCOPE.

furloughman 07-05-2008 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi (Post 417935)
Sorry to hear that. Losing flying is no good for anybody.

Yes it is, especially RJ flying. It's good for everybody.

JoeyMeatballs 07-05-2008 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by furloughman (Post 418836)
Yes it is, especially RJ flying. It's good for everybody.

hold on big fella, its good as long as it goes back to mainline pilots, not farmed out to a low cost regional, aka MESA, Colgan, etc..............

furloughman 07-05-2008 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 418838)
hold on big fella, its good as long as it goes back to mainline pilots, not farmed out to a low cost regional, aka MESA, Colgan, etc..............

Obviously, I agree. That would be MORE RJ flying. I said LOSS of RJ flying is good for everyone.

higney85 07-05-2008 08:18 AM

We can all sit here and say what we "think" "should" happen but truth is I don't think management even knows how any decision will turn out. Scope is of the utmost importance to me. To be frank I don't care if 3 regionals or 8 fly for the new delta, I just want to see strong language and opportunity at the major level and an upward movement in the overall "bar" of the industry.

JoeyMeatballs 07-05-2008 08:38 AM

Hey Im a P2P member too :)

Lighteningspeed 07-05-2008 09:42 AM

Why not? If the Delta / NWA pilots get management to agree on scope that includes ONLY two regionals, this is exactly what would happen. I agree that this probably won't happen but it should. If it doesn't, it would further entice labor issues at the regionals. Now is the perfect time to get on board for the combined Delta / NWA pilots.[/quote]

I have to agree with you here. While I also agree with others who say that we are not going to know for sure until it happens, I have heard at the joint NWA/DAL merger presentation, that DAL fully intends to weed out the regionals down to 2 or 3. Which ones will be one of these 2 or 3 is really anybody's guess. I do not think neither Republic or Skywest's position is as secure as people think it is. Even 76 seat RJs are no longer economically viable when the price of oil is topping $145 a barrel and continues to go up. It is expected the price of oil will top $155 this summer.

whaledriver1 07-05-2008 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by furloughman (Post 418843)
Obviously, I agree. That would be MORE RJ flying. I said LOSS of RJ flying is good for everyone.







furloughman,

You are 100% correct my friend...

Superpilot92 07-05-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 418835)
I hope so, I would rather lose the battle at the regional level, so the Major guys win the war. The growth of the regional airline at the expense of a shrinking major IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. The regional pilots need to stop lowering the bar (do not except poor working conditions or crummy pay just to "secure" flying, and the Major guys need to STAND STRONG ON SCOPE.

dead on! good luck buddy.

furloughman 07-05-2008 11:10 AM

I'm glad we are all singing from the same sheet of music regarding scope. Now let's all unify together to realign the industry for the future. First of all, ALPA needs to get their $%&T together. We as pilots cannot become selfish. We have to think long term.


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