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CTPILOT 07-04-2008 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 417986)
I am not a MOD but I will say this:

Lets keep the thread on topic and not bash all the regionals. We know that everyone's regional is the best, lets keep to the topic.. It seems that threads keep getting closed with these topic lines because we all claim to be ALPA and Pro-Union and then try and take each other's heads off.


This was a planned reduction (as a Xjt'r confirmed) so this is business as usual and is being conveyed to the public. DL has publicly said they want 4, yes FOUR regionals POST MERGER. This does NOT count the wholly owned of Comair, Mesaba, and Compass. So look at the current list and you can see where this is going. XJT was planned and well known about as far as coming off the list.

We can almost assure these (off the top of my head)

-Comair
-XJ (Mesaba)
-Compass

1. Republic (170's)
2. Skywest
3. ASA
4.? Pinnacle- the -200's are in the contract with merger protection, -900's are a maybe and we will leave it at that. We did get new routes posted on DL for flying in September so who knows about July 31st.



Contenders (with contracts I may add)
Pinnacle (900's)
Mesa (injunction/contract/performance)

I know I am missing some... which ones?

your saying Comair is to be cut? or stay? Delta needs someone to feed JFnk

higney85 07-04-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 418493)
your saying Comair is to be cut? or stay? Delta needs someone to feed JFnk


Comair is at the top of the list of STAYING if you look at my post again. I fully expect the wholly owns to stick around for flying but I could see them spun off in time.


[Quote] We can almost assure these (off the top of my head)

-Comair
-XJ (Mesaba)
-Compass

fjetter 07-04-2008 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 418493)
your saying Comair is to be cut? or stay? Delta needs someone to feed JFnk

I think he was saying that outside of the wholly owned Comair and soon Mesaba and Compass those listed would be the contract DCI carriers. Delta will just continue to treat us like a red-headed stepchild.

PoBugSmasher 07-04-2008 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by mach946 (Post 418311)
I feel for the XJT men and women. Your company has managed to weather so may storms it' s amazing that your still standing. I applaud you guy's. I graduated from Kent State University, and have many alumni at EJT, so I really have an empathy for what your going though. I really do hope you all fare well. It's really sad to see a great company with such inovative ideas to stay competitive get bounced around the way you guys have beeen.
For those of you at other airlines lets wish the men and women at XJT the best, and let's extend that to all air carriers as well.
I still believe you guys have a winning concept, and I hope time will grant you that opportunity to show the industry that winning attitude.

All the best!!!!

Thanks, mach. You sound like a class act. Where are you at now?

BURflyer 07-04-2008 09:34 AM

It was inevitable, all the flights that I jumped on were mostly empty, including the short flights. I also heard from a buddy that the Mexico flights weren't any better. You can't make any money with 25 Pax on a 145 It's unfortunate, DAL XJ really had the best service, unfortunately service doesn't go with profits these days.

dba74 07-04-2008 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 418052)
You guys are arguing for no reason you know.....we are ALL going to be out of a job real soon. Oil is not going down....it's going up. No airline still in business is making money, they are loosing millions a day. How long do you really think we have?

Don't forget SKYW is still making money for now at least

rickair7777 07-04-2008 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by dba74 (Post 418520)
Don't forget SKYW is still making money for now at least

Only as long as DAL and UAL stay out of BK.

higney85 07-04-2008 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 418497)
I think he was saying that outside of the wholly owned Comair and soon Mesaba and Compass those listed would be the contract DCI carriers. Delta will just continue to treat us like a red-headed stepchild.

I can see what you are saying- a little confusion with multiple lists and such. I do NOT think the "New Delta" will be able to get by with only Comair, Mesaba, and Compass. On the Delta side Skywest and ASA will remain (contracts + amount of flying). Republic would conceivably stay due to the -170's. Pinnacle does over 30% of NWA's domestic feed and are the only non-wholly owned on the NWA side. I can see PNCL's -900 options being used and the contract provision to swap -200's for -900's (meaning no net gain of airframes but more -900's and less -200's in the fleet makeup). XJT will be under continental only.

Did I miss anybody?

newarkblows 07-04-2008 12:25 PM

so who is hiring now anyways....

KiloAlpha 07-04-2008 12:28 PM

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