Mesa is hiring?
 

Got an email today from Mesa (how they got my email I have no Idea) but they say they are hiring and have an open house in august.

I thought they were in deep S*%*#, what is going on. I am not planning on going for several (obvious) reasons, but I guess for some people a job is better than nothing.

beats me....

as of friday their stock was trading at $0.34 per share.

Hahaha...yeah, I just checked my email and I got the same thing. But...no thanks...

Holy crap, even I got an email. How did they get my address, I do have an airline apps account but DAL is my only target. I have NEVER sent Mesa a resume or an application. What a joke operation they have.

Here’s the email: I deleted some of the info.


MESA AIR GROUP IS HIRING!

Mesa Air Group will be hosting two open house roadshows in August. We are seeking First Officers for our CRJ and DHC equipment.

First Show:
Time: Friday August 1, 2008 10:00 AM

Second Show:
Time: Tuesday August 19, 2008 10:00 AM


All qualified applicants will be given the opportunity to interview.
Please bring the following items with you:
• Current Resume
• All Log Books (you must bring all endorsements & original log books.

No computerized log books.) All checkrides MUST be flagged. Please include a separate sheet of paper with total flight times for the previous 30, 60, and 90 days.
• Original Driving Records from the states in which you've lived, or been licensed, for at least the previous five years.

Please bring a copy and the original of the following items:
• Driver’s License
• Driving Records
• Pilot License(s)
• First Class Medical Certificate
• Current Passport
• FCC License (FCC 605-FRC)
• Permanent Resident Alien Registration Card (if applicable)

All of the above are required for employment. Failure to bring all requested materials could result in denial of an interview. You must also review and update all information on your application through Airline Applications. Please bring a copy of your application with you.

Please be advised that you will be given a 50 question ATP written test, which must be successfully passed with an 80% or greater score. If you do not meet the passing score you will not be allowed to continue with the interview process. You will be able to re-apply 6 months after the interview date.

Please meet at the above time and place and you will be informed after the orientation as to the time of your interview. Interviews are scheduled throughout the course of the afternoon, so please be prepared to spend the day with us.

Apparently anyone with an airline apps account will get it. They are still short on the CRJ side, but I'd imagine it will be like the Comair fiasco, hiring one day and furloughing the next.

All I can say about this is that you'd have to be stupid to go to Mesa now. Especially at 30cents a share. If you're unemployed and can't instruct, even unemployment will pay more than the mesa training guarantee and you get to stay home. Best case scenario if you're hired at the open houses, you'll start flying by Christmas...

Apparently they got some "extra" flying on the DL side the judge awarded them from the DL case. They had 25 lines out of JFK, I guess they will have 35 now. At least that's what I've heard. Might explain why they are hiring.

Did the e-mail list any minimums?

Damn it................you're right?:rolleyes:??????????????..........I was thinking about leaving my cushy CA position and good seniority here at SKW for Mesa.

Damn it..............looks like I'm stuck.:rolleyes:

Got the same e-mail, I know everyone says to stay away from them. Is it true they make you pay for your own hotel during training and its' shared?

They can't make you share a hotel room that you're paying for, but most do so that they can reduce the cost.

They also don't pay you until you get past a certain point. I'm sure that others can add more, I'm just repeating info from a friend of mine who was there for a year but has now been at SKW for almost 10 months now.

I just went to the Mesa Air web site and I found this on the front page and started laughing...

So if you’re looking for great, friendly service or you’re keen to work in a fun, professional environment with the best in the business, we’d love to welcome you to Mesa, ATW Regional Airline of the Year 2005.

Just another example of marketing/hr departments trying to attract the blind and ignorant. The best part is if you ask those at Mesa if they truly believe what they are saying, I bet you'd get a great big "HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!"

Hotel is provided - double occupancy, just like several other regionals.

You get on the payroll after 2 weeks. Ex/ hired on 7/13, first check (depending on how you hit it) by the end of the month. That's how it worked for me, and has been working.

Not true. MESA does pay you from the very start not much though. If I remember from some recent students the hotel accomodations are also paid for and you do have seperate rooms. Some students stay in four bed room housing at ASU. Also even if the training takes one 3 to 5 mos to complete you do get paid on time.

Best wishes.

OK, well that's good to know. My friend went through training back in August of 06 and had to pay for his hotel for the first few weeks.

It's sad that companies expect a professional to work for free or for pathetic wages (SKW as well as every other airline including most all Legacies, Nationals & Majors) until their trained or partially trained. I don't know of many other industries that do this. It, as well as many other things, is downright criminal and disrespectfull.

"Is it true they make you pay for your own hotel during training and its' shared?"

Trainees are provided a single-occupancy hotel room, or a single-ocupancy room in a 3 or 4 bedroom, 2 bath house. Trainees are paid 70 hours per month at the year 1 CRJ FO rate.

Bruce Morey
PHX DHC8 FO

I ran into some Mesa FO(ols) a while ago that did their initial sim training here at FlightSafety in CVG and they told me they had to pay for their own hotel while staying here in CVG.

Yes, you are correct, for awhile they did have to provide their own housing while going through training. Today, as the venerable Bruce Morey has stated, all newhire FOs are provided housing over at Willie Gateway. It is better than nothing and the accomodations there are plush compared to the luxurious Del Rio in Mesa...w/ fine dining/beverages provided from Groggys across the street.

I'd just go to Mesa and go through training so I could be near ASU girls:p

The willy housing is inner-city project quality...it's better than the Del Rio only because the Del Rio is in the third-world slum league. :rolleyes:

Courtney Simpson is an extremely famous, or infamous, former ASU cheerleader!:)

sure is! :D

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I got the same email and no it is NOT true that they make you pay for your own hotel. They do give you a roommate but Mesa pays for it.

So innocent in that picture!

HAHAHA! Looks sure can be deceiving.

Who is this??

A few things you should know about Mesa Airlines:

1. Mesa requires a training contract. I think it is a year.

2. They also have cancelled all vacations for their CRJ pilots for the last year. You will not be able to get any days off other than your bid schedule.

3. They have trips that will have a layover at an airport and not get you a hotel. It is legal because you won't exceed your maximum duty or flying time, but be bored as hell. Pilots sleep in the airplane until their next flight. You could walk through the terminal if you like but that doesn't sound like much fun either.

4. They give you a minimum of 8 days off in a 28 day period. You can assume that you will never get more than 2 days consecutive so it makes it extremely difficult to JS home and actually do something productive.

5. Delta Airlines has appealed the court decision last month and if the appeal overturns that last ruling, you can guarentee you will be furloughed. They will loose 20% of their profits overnight.

I know many pilots with low time that got on with them and moved on to a better company a year later. It worked for them and they were aware of the poor working conditions they were facing.

I am surprised they announced they were hiring when just last week I spoke to someone that was in their hiring pool. I am really curious what is going on over there. Be very cautious if you feel desperate enough to apply.

She would be a mormon turned adult film star after a year at ASU.

Were about 200 guys short right now, and are close to needing street CA's due to a lack of qualified F/O's. The Mesa pilot development guys are subject to higher upgrade mins, so it takes them longer to hit their number.

Not saying to come to work here, just shedding light on the truth. Industry sucks right now, and Mesa is no exception. Stay away from all airlines.

If I was at a regional offering LOAs I would get an LOA and go try to be a sim instructor at Mesa so I could chase ASU girls and yell at new hires...it would be a preview of my retirement years--living in Arizona, being a crusty old sim instructor, and chasing women--only difference is I'll prob be chasing divorcees in the JC Penney lingerie section in Sun City instead of ASU cheerleaders once I'm an old retired guy.

That's hilarious...the people who paid for their darned scheme have higher upgrade mins. Here ya go...here's my thousands of dollars so you can hire me then upgrade over me because I paid you for my training :eek:

The comair fiasco is due to mesa, so good..frankly.

You guys are all over the place. The only thing safe to say is that it's not consistent.

SkW is consistent on new hires.... double occupancy, paid by the company, 60 hours of first year pay. No training contract.

My friend started in May and stayed at a house that is on the ASU East campus. The housing is former Air Force base houses and now used for students and the projects. The houses were decent and close to where the training is. They usually give everyone their own room but you may have to share a bathroom. The living arrangements are actually better than most regionals. I would prefer sharing a house rather than a small hotel room.

It will be interesting to see if Mesa still feels the need to file Chapter 11 before July 20th even though they have some glimmer of hope after they made some progress with their lawsuit with Delta.

Why July 20th?

Since many of them had never seen an airplane before their year and a half stint at Mesa pilot development, and were hired with 200-300 hours, I think its in the interest of safety that they have higher upgrade mins than just ATP mins.

I had been flying for 8 years (2 and change professionally) when I upgraded to captain.

I'll help you read between the lines.


1) Hotel is provided at no cost to the employee.

2) Each employee will be housed at:

a.) A three or four bedroom house, in which you will have your own room.

-or-

b) The Del Rio Hotel, double occupancy.

In either case, transportation is provided to and from the PHX airport and the training center at Williams Gateway Airport.

Each new-hire is paid 70 hours per 28 days and 1 year CRJ FO pay.

They are not higher upgrade mins. It is ICAO upgrade mins (specifacally any SIC time can only be counted toward half of your total time) towards upgrade and because they are lower time pilots it takes them longer to aquire the hours.

July 20th is the date that Mesa stated they would file Chapter 11 by if they didn't win the court battle with Delta. They won the first round but it isn't over, Delta appealed and own the aircraft that Mesa was flying. I don't know if they started the flying again or not. Maybe someone out there can let us know. That is 20% of their profit they are loosing if they aren't flying it and are loosing in other routes, they are still struggling.

There are a lot of other factors that have to line up in order for them to not fold. They are bleeding in Hawaii, they are short pilots even in this economy, and they are are suppose to pay out their share holders soon.

BTW, I am not hoping that Mesa crumbles. I know there are a lot of haters out there but there are a lot of good pilots flying for them.

For all those people that are bitter that their minimums are so low and MPD graduates are flying a jet with 250 hours in their logbook, good for them. There are many days I wish I did that and moved on to the airlines much faster than sweating my butt off in a hot Cessna logging one hour at a time. In the long run, if they never get furloughed, the program pays itself off if they make it to the majors faster than the pilots that built their time the old fashion way by dropping parachuters and flight instructing. Can't blame them for it.