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ChickenFlight 07-13-2008 07:52 PM

649 displacements and only 367 vacancies leaves 282. There will be a massive training bubble in the mean time and maybe things will pick up in the mean time. I would expect some from the closing bases will give up on it all and those who live in base but get displaced by a senior guy could make this all very interesting. Good luck guys.

Duck, the fan is on and the company has a shovel full of the stinky stuff

PIPErdrvr 07-13-2008 07:53 PM

These numbers were generated out of necessity assuming that boston would be closed. Per our contract, the vacancy bid must be opened for 15 days. Were it not published today, the company would not have enough time to begin transition/upgrade classes for the first August class. If by chance, boston is not closed and/or JFK and LGA are not made into co-domiciles, the whole configuration will change.

SebastianDesoto 07-13-2008 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 425083)
Junior FO's will become fast-food technicians.

Well, we haven't received a "WARN" letter yet, but it definitely looks like a furlough is imminent. Eaglelounge folk are running numbers that look like 272 excess pilots.

I am personally just on the "safe" end of those numbers, but I am not sure how the CA going to FO will effect the numbers.

ChinsFive 07-13-2008 09:54 PM

Good luck guys, it looks like they are moving some ATR's to DFW... WHY?

meeko031 07-13-2008 10:47 PM

133 captains back to fo, means 130 fos will be bumped added to the extra 130. 260 - 300 fos furloughed sounds about right!!!:confused:

Killer51883 07-14-2008 05:02 AM

they are closing boston? that sucks for those guys its a bad time in this industry all over good luck guys

ChickenFlight 07-14-2008 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 425155)
133 captains back to fo, means 130 fos will be bumped added to the extra 130. 260 - 300 fos furloughed sounds about right!!!:confused:


The captain displacements to FO are accounted for in the 260 number but we need to keep in mind the LOAs, part-time lines and possible resignations as bases close.

mrmak2 07-14-2008 06:35 AM

These numbers are inline with early estimates of 10% reductions minus the shortage we had. It looks like all the 2008 newhires are in real jeopardy. What a waste to spend all the money qualifying these guys then send them out on the street.

What's up with the DFW/ORD CRJ swap? Was this planned before hand? Is DFW CRJ not available at all anymore?

Also, if someone gets displaced out of a t-prop into a jet (not proffer but involuntary) can that person bid back to prop on the next system bid? An example-

A Saab FO in Dallas has for a displacement bid any jet anywhere in the system and so his seniority will hold ERJ ORD. Later he wants to go back to Dallas so a vacancy opens for ATR and his seniority will hold it. Can he go back? Please included the Contract language where this is addressed.

Squawk_5543 07-14-2008 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by ChinsFive (Post 425136)
Good luck guys, it looks like they are moving some ATR's to DFW... WHY?

You must not be up to date with whats going down at Eagle. It is my understanding that ALL Eagle Saab's are being parked, a big portion of which were based in DFW. They are moving ATR's from SJU to DFW to start flying some of the "soon to be" former Saab routes. More PAX per plane on less flights per day = saving money............something like that

csbs13 07-14-2008 09:01 AM

The word around here (Waco, TX) is we'll be getting 145s in and out of Dallas, and the ATR fleet will go to California. Can't get anybody to bet their first born, but everyone ive asked seems fairly sure of it. I just hope the other routes out of DFW make more sense; half the time the saabs don't even get above four thousand feet headed back in to the metroplex. Can't even imagine the fuel burn on a 145 that low.


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