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coldpilot 07-14-2008 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by csbs13 (Post 425382)
The word around here (Waco, TX) is we'll be getting 145s in and out of Dallas, and the ATR fleet will go to California. Can't get anybody to bet their first born, but everyone ive asked seems fairly sure of it. I just hope the other routes out of DFW make more sense; half the time the saabs don't even get above four thousand feet headed back in to the metroplex. Can't even imagine the fuel burn on a 145 that low.

Waco will be going all jet later this fall. The ATRs will come back to DFW but will not be on all the current SAAB routes. Many of the SAAB routes are going to the jet - ACT, TYR, and GGG so far. Sounds really logical to me :rolleyes:

We do get above 4000 going back to DFW. The routing is longer than it is on the way down to ACT. We went back at 10000 this morning and I have done it at 11000 before.

dojetdriver 07-14-2008 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 425340)
They are moving ATR's from SJU to DFW to start flying some of the "soon to be" former Saab routes. More PAX per plane on less flights per day = saving money............something like that

That makes sense, so it's OBVIOUSLY not the answer.

SebastianDesoto 07-14-2008 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Squawk_5543 (Post 425340)
You must not be up to date with whats going down at Eagle. It is my understanding that ALL Eagle Saab's are being parked, a big portion of which were based in DFW. They are moving ATR's from SJU to DFW to start flying some of the "soon to be" former Saab routes. More PAX per plane on less flights per day = saving money............something like that

Also, the reduction of flying from AA out of San Juan requires less feed into it. Spare ATRs, perfect fit in DFW.

meeko031 07-14-2008 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by csbs13 (Post 425382)
The word around here (Waco, TX) is we'll be getting 145s in and out of Dallas, and the ATR fleet will go to California. Can't get anybody to bet their first born, but everyone ive asked seems fairly sure


haha.. people are laughing at me for putting LAX ATR on my displacement bid.... we'll see what happens!!

Pontius Pilot 07-14-2008 10:46 AM

There are apparently a few more displacements than there are vacancies. Interesting. Maybe I need to brush up on my burger flipping technique!

My question is - if you have a seat lock are you still bound by it? Can an ATR guy/gal bid and get CRJ with 8 months left on a seat lock?

coldpilot 07-14-2008 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot (Post 425452)
There are apparently a few more displacements than there are vacancies. Interesting. Maybe I need to brush up on my burger flipping technique!

My question is - if you have a seat lock are you still bound by it? Can an ATR guy/gal bid and get CRJ with 8 months left on a seat lock?

The only seat locks being released are on the SF3. SF3 pilots can bid for any of the vacancies listed. If you are seat locked you won't be awarded the posted vacancies but you may be displaced during this whole cluster. If you are involuntarily displaced you will not be seat locked in your new status. If you proffer to displace you will be seat locked.

Mason32 07-14-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 425079)
thats 603 not including the <ALL
I really hope your wrong


The All in BOS for CA & FO is around 225 alone

Mason32 07-14-2008 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by csbs13 (Post 425382)
The word around here (Waco, TX) is we'll be getting 145s in and out of Dallas, and the ATR fleet will go to California. Can't get anybody to bet their first born, but everyone ive asked seems fairly sure of it. I just hope the other routes out of DFW make more sense; half the time the saabs don't even get above four thousand feet headed back in to the metroplex. Can't even imagine the fuel burn on a 145 that low.

2500 lbs per hour at those altitudes if memory serves me correctly.

Mason32 07-14-2008 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 425465)
The only seat locks being released are on the SF3. SF3 pilots can bid for any of the vacancies listed. If you are seat locked you won't be awarded the posted vacancies but you may be displaced during this whole cluster. If you are involuntarily displaced you will not be seat locked in your new status. If you proffer to displace you will be seat locked.


If he/she goes to the CRJ they will be stuck there until they upgrade or another displacement takes place. You can not bid from jet to jet. If he/she displaces to a turboprop, then they can later bid to a jet, as well as upgrade or get displaced again. Be very careful what you put in for your displacements. If you end up in the CRJ you will be stuck with a base at either DFW or ORD. No way back to EMB LAX or JFK unless you upgrade or get displaced again.

PIPErdrvr 07-14-2008 03:04 PM

You can, however, bid from ERJ to CRJ same seat, just not the reverse. According to the latest MEC email, if you displace into "higher" equipment, you cannot vacancy bid back to the "lower" equipment once this settles down. I think this has already been stated, but just wanted to try to clarify. A San Juan ATR CA, if displaced to Dallas EMJ CA, cannot vacancy bid back to Dallas ATR CA even if his seniority will hold it.


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