Mesa Interviews?
 

What dates are coming up for Mesa Interviews? They gave me one 15 hours after I applied, but it's not 'til August 28th!

What aircraft have an upgrade path that doesn't lead to company bypassing?

Please keep the bashing to a min, a "top tier" regional gave me a pink slip. They all suck!

Riiiiiight...I'm sure its the company's fault you pinked. Make sure you explain it that way in the interview.:rolleyes: I smell flamebait.

Yes they all suck cause you were pinked...keep telling yourelf that and you'll fit in well at Mesa.

Aug 28th? That means you'll start flying around February if you get hired.

It's called a furlough. It means you don't have a job anymore. The form letter was pink, too.

There are places to make money outside of aviation.

I was at Mesa for almost two years before going to ExpressJet. I'm about to be furloughed as well, but there is no way in hell I would ever go back to Mesa.

That being said, if you do decide to go there, I would ask for the Dash 8. Better quality of life and no seat fence. You'll be able to upgrade on either the Dash or the Jet. It won't matter though, they will put you where they want. I asked for the Dash or the 1900 and got the CRJ.

Anyway, if you really want to know about life at Mesa, or have other questions shoot me a PM and I'll answer them for you.

So what "top-tier" regional furloughed you? Let see; SKW/ASA haven't furloughed, RAH/Horizon/XJT plan on furloughing but haven't yet, same with Eagle........................so what “top tier” regional pinked you? TSA? :confused: Or did you fail out of the course?

I’m not bashing you; most pilots would just go back to 135 or 91 until their “top-tier” airline recalled them.

I have been looking for jobs in 135 and 91, there are none available. They are ready to furlough also. Many will also require a contract.

I don't think anyone will have a difficult time explaining a furlough at a job interview. It is so common now that 99.9% of the people interviewing will be in that situation.

I am very skeptical what Mesa is up to. If they are so desperate for pilots, why is their job fair in August and interview dates in August. They should be next week. Also, they had a huge pool prior to 2 weeks ago. I am sure they have filled up classes in August but you would think they would want to fill up September as fast as possible.

Good luck to anyone that feels they need apply to their last choice airline in order to pay their bills. We have all been humbled and no one is safe.

In Mesa's infinite wisdom, then haven't been looking ahead and have no sim time available. With the CRJ sims so high in demand, it's tough to find any slots. They've lately resorted to creating a new FAA approved 700 course so they can train pilots in the 700 sims, rather than relying on the traditional 200 course. You can be hired, go through ground, then wait 6 months for the sim.

(What I wouldn't give for 6 months paid vacation, CASS travel included!)

Are you refering to a furlough pink slip or a failed 121 training, check ride bust? If its the later just make sure you have an explanation of what happened, why it happened, how you've changed since and why it won't happen again.

Let me know where because I have looked everywhere including waiting on tables. No one is hiring. I put an application in at one restaurant and the manager said half of his applicants have college degrees. I even have signed up for a temp agency and so far, no calls.

It is a genuine furlough, not a failed training, TG!

I've got enough skeletons in my closet, don't need a 121 failure in there too.

And what I've learned: have six months salary in the bank account at all times.

Which of the “top-tier” regionals pinked you? This an anonymous forum, we don't know you, so why not tell?

I got 3 months of CASS paid vacay, and they were great.

I second the suggestion to ask for the dash. Amazing airplane and you can take any upgrade vacancy there is, whereas CRJ are limited to the jet only.

Good luck to you. If you have any legitimate questions fire away.

Don't go to Mesa. I'd rather flight instruct. When are people going to really understand how sh!tty of an employer Jonathan Ornstein is? By supporting Mesa you support the race to the bottom.

I agree, flight instructing is very reputable but not everyone kept their ratings current.

I looked at 2 flight schools and neither were hiring. Students are leaving because the cost has gone up so much and the job opportunities are shrinking.

If you're in the rich areas of the country there's still plenty of doctors and lawyers learning.

Cry me a river.

It would be funny to see you out of work after all the noise you talk.

I agree, many of us have or will be humbled. Never say never! How can you fault someone for taking a job in their profession in order to keep working? Is it more honorable to collect unemployment and food stamps? Everyone I know that hated Mesa should have never applied there. They lived across the country and tried to support a family and a crash pad. Not an easy task. However, if you are fresh out of college and have low time, why would you not jump in the right seat of a jet and live all over the country?

Like any other job, do your research before you sign on. Mesa has some things about it that make people hate it. I have 2 friends that fly for them and have no problems. They don't mind living in the junior bases and are OK with the pay. They knew what they were signing on for.

Im in the August 13th interview. Even if you don't take the job, an interview is an interview, I think it prepares you better for future interviews. Especially if it's your first one. And oh boo hoo its MESA....It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet and had been working as instructors for a year now and got screwed by the industry. Unfortunately the people doing the bashing are the ones who got in at 300 hrs into a right seat. Now that regionals are furloughing, those non CFIs have some rough times ahead. So dont bash people trying to get a job just because you have one and you're company is about to go under.

OMG. Can you say SJS?

Mesa pilots ARE THE PROBLEM.

You self entitled "will fly for food" types help put many of my friends out of jobs in Hawaii, while never fighting management against lost vacations, low pay, industry leading fatigue, and poor working conditions.

DO NOT WORK FOR MESA.

The job isn't worth having if you personally are responsible for holding back the entire industry pay rates. Enjoy your 8 days off a month, and $22K a year job. If I ever do an interview for a Mesa guy I will be sure to tell him why he isn't getting the job! How about striking against management, and getting closer to $40K on first year pay, with 15+ days off a month.

Uh, exactly which of the regionals is currently offering that package?

It's sink or swim time for a lot of you guys waiting to get into this industry. I know the comments here can sometimes be a bit negative towards Mesa...Polish Pilot, as long as you are aware of some of the challenges here at MAG, you'll be fine. It's a risky profession, as you've stated, there really isn't much else at this time. So it's human nature to get moving take what you can. It could be awhile before you get the opportunity again. My 5 years at Mesa have been good to me, I've learned a lot flying with 10,000 to 20,000 hr. captains, as well as 300 hr. F/Os. Many opportunities have been afforded to me that I might not have had at other carriers. Last but not least, I work for myself and my family, not my CEO. Do your research, know what you're potentially getting yourself into, and don't have any regrets.

Jeszcze Polska Nie Zginela...:o

None - don't you see the problem. We as pilots need to unite, and demand respectable pay (and 40K is not respectable).

You paid over 100K for this career, yet you accept 8 days off a month and less than 25K a year? How stupid are you for taking those work rules?

MESA is an ALPA carrier????? How does ALPA allow MESA to rob from their employees vacations, and under pay them? How does ALPA allow a regional airline to come into a market and bankrupt two ALPA carriers, putting thousands out of jobs?

ExpressJet is where I am at.... and we at least lead the industry pay and work rules. Our pilots are now willing to take such a stand on pay/benefits that we may close the entire business. Management is now coming to us for 5% pay cuts - and I am setting the example as I have taken another job for respectable pay in defense contracting, and will inform them at the proper time that I have quit for lack of pay and work rules.

Ignorance.

A) We are CONSTANTLY in ALPA sponsored suits against management. Mesa pilots as a whole would LOVE to take a hard-nosed stance against Management, but RLA dictates other prior measures must be taken.

B) MESA Pilots which again you pointed out to be the source of all your heartache, had NOTHING TO DO with Mesa's move to Hawaii. That was all our slimy management's call.

C) NO airline starts you at $40K a year with 15+ days off.

Mesa pilots were whipsawed against non-union pilots during our '02 CBA. To get all of the flying ALPA unionized (which as an Expressjet pilot your a member of) we lost EVERYTHING. So in the future, stop BASHING your fellow ALPA brothers and sisters, and help us work towards a higher quality contract in our current negotiations.

How has one year CFI's been "screwed by the industry"? Oh my God! You mean people instruct for more than a year?!?!:rolleyes:

Give me a break.

Actually, a new-hire could easily make into the upper 40's @ World and even swing 15 days off.

sure shiny jet syndrome, but he has instructed for a year because the industry screwed him

did he apply to be a go getter too?

Those considering MESA should go into it a lot deeper then just thinking about the dirty shiny MESA CRJ they could be flying. MESA is in financial troubles. Delta could either say goodbye and take all the flying if they win the appeal, or pay a fine and still stop the flying. Either way Mesa is in deep trouble.

i didnt say instructing is the reason i was screwed by the industry.....I was simply saying a lot of people making the negative comments who work for a regional got in with minimum hours and never did instruct. I was screwed because like many others, got a job at an outstanding regional, wait, two outstanding regionals. Eagle and Comair. and now im swimming in a pool. Everyone is bashing everybody else, but how about for those two great regionals who hired like madman and now are furloughing, how about for all the other companys furloughing? give me a break about bad management, it seems like EVERY regional airline has horrible management.
As to horrible pay and minimum days off per month, if you were a CFI then you know. I work 6 days a week, sometimes 7. Im at the school for 12 hours a day and get paid for 8. So its nothing new. And wouldn't we all love to have a starting pay of 40K and 15 days off per month.

Wow, ignorance at its finest. Listen pal my company isn't anywhere NEAR going under but I must say that you smell of flamebait. So you don't get to fly your shiny new jet after ONE YEAR of instructing......are you for real? Like your ENTITLED to an airline job because you put in a YEAR as an instructor? Whoa man are in for some brow beating if and when you do get into the airlines because those of us with reality in check will put up with that attitude for about 3 seconds.

I second JetJock's question Maria.........what top tier regional were you furloughed from? Oh and a pink slip means you are terminated. A furlough is not a termination even if it is on a pink piece of paper.

So lets see.......top tier regionals that have already furloughed.

SkyWest - no mention of even WARN letters
RAH - IF it goes through......Sept 1
XJet - mention of it but nobody on the street yet
Eagle - no mention (as far as I know) of a furlough
Comair - nobody on the street yet

Am I forgetting any? What gives?

I don't know for a fact but I had heard that Eagle has projected furloughs. You can almost bet on the XJET furloughs because of the branded flying going away.

It is fairly easy to get burned out on this CFI thing. Especially when some guys are complaining about only getting 8 days off a month. And as a CFI, I'd love to know what having 8 days off a month feels like. We get about 2-3 days off a month if we're lucky. Don't even start me on the amount you get paid for the full week of work. Mesa is also something a lot of us are considering because there is no light at the end of the tunnel anywhere else. Being in a pool at Eagle, or Comair your options are limited with everyone elses furloughing or announced furloughing intentions.

Many of you think that being a "CFI" is the honorable thing to do but, being honorable doesn't always pay the bills. Ask the AMFA mechanics at NWA, how striking for unfair wages worked out for them in 2004. In the end this industry is what it is. And you will be used by your company, so if a company offers you a way to progress through your career, take it. No one has SJS here. At some point another 100 hours of dual given SEL means nothing on your resume. Turbine time is more valuable then anything you can do in a Da-20 or C172, and it it would help all of those teaching steep turns and stall progress in the careers.

We should have less threads about Mesa and more threads about beer.

Do yourself a favor....and delete the email that says..."we would like for you to visit us for an interview" from your inbox now....you will make more cfiing and you will catch less crap from people for not working there....

So where did you get this "pink slip" from?

Guys, we have folks looking at coming back to Mesa for the second time after being furloughed from United for the second time in 9yrs. It's a nasty industry, you go where you need to in order to feed your family and pay your bills w/ your skill...granted, you don't make much here @ Mesa your first couple years, but I'm not gonna bad mouth United pilots for doing what they need to do. Get into the industry while you can because many of these opportunities are going to evaporate here pretty quick and might not come back around for quite awhile.

Mesa and the Dash 8 have treated me well over the last 5 yrs. I can't speak for the rest of the company, but there are pilots who are happy and content right now @ MAG, as hard as that may be to believe.

Good luck to all aspiring pilots right now trying to break into this industry.