Colgan Pilots ALPA Informational Meeting July 29-30 @ EWR
 

Attention Colgan Pilots:

Next week an open forum for informational purposes on this year's ALPA drive will be held. All are encouraged to stop in. ALPA representatives will be present and food/coffee will be provided. Volunteers are needed to help with the drive so please stop by!

Where: Marriott - Newark Airport
When: July 29 & 30 (Doors open from 12PM-6PM)

i was wondering when we'd her from alpa again

Let's get them in this time around.

Good luck to you Colgan guys. I hope this thread will stay positive and for that reason i am keeping my opinions out of this. I hope you all take the time to understand the pro's and con's of unionization. ALPA may not be the answer but maybe another union will be. It is a big decision and it will have major ramifications on your future careers.

Being a 9E guy, I would really encourage all you Colgan guys to get ALPA onboard. I'm not the biggest fan of ALPA, but when you have an extremely abusive managment, like the one we both have, you need a union. I also think that's going to give both pinnacle and you guys more bargain power against PNCL corp. PNCL's managment wouldn't hesitate to create confrontation between us and try to make us screw each other. Being united under the same union would prevent that. We'll be able to work toghether during these harsh times. Just my opinion........

Well said my friend, Colgan's management is very abusive and sneaky. This time it need to be %100

Yes we need one. But not ALPA. Teamsters is the way to go. Nothing more ALPA would like to do then get are money and make the colgan 34 seat clause happen. That was in one of there statmenents to Pinnacle pilots. Tell me this, why would I want them here at colgan? Somone please tell me.

Well, I'd like to know YOUR reasons for choosing Teamsters.
(reasons why Teamsters is good, not reasons why ALPA is bad.)

Well I kind of gave out a hint in my post above......but........ I'm just saying, apparentely some guys at colgan haven't realize yet what kind of new boss they have. You'd be surprise of what PNCL corp. is capable of doing. Anyhow, I see why some guys don't like ALPA, but remember, if you bring ALPA onboard, you have to set goals with them and make clear what you guys want, not what ALPA wants. You guys need to develop an agenda with them. We at 9E are fighting the scope language regarding you guys in our new contract, and managment apparently has been trying to do whatever they want. I'm sure you guys are not interested in becoming another GOJET. Not saying it'll get to that point, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they start screwing around with our flying. They'll love to have a strike-proofed company. Again, I repeat, I think it'll be really good for Colgan and Us to be leveled and work togheter with ALPA.
It's only my opinion........

Will Alpa hold informational meetings in IAH? I think as a pilot group we need as much information as possible. Pretty much everyone I know wants a union at Colgan now, however, there are a lot of pilots afraid of what Alpa will do to us in terms of the Scope. I realize the importance of a united group (both pilot groups 9e and 9l) and I feel that the company under ALPA would still be Colgan flying props and Pinnacle flying jets, however, there are a lot of people afraid. That is what is fueling the Teamsters/ALPA debate. At the end of the day, I think pretty much everyone agrees we need representation of some kind be it ALPA or Teamsters.