ASA COMA will be offered to probationary pilots, too?
07-29-2008, 10:53 AM
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ASA COMA will be offered to probationary pilots, too?
The contract says if you're on probation, you aren't eligible for Company Offered Months of Absence. The letter BM sent out said this:
For September 2008, company offered monthly absences (COMA) will be offered to all Captain and First
Officers by virtue of seniority and will be granted upon staffing accommodations. (I added the bold)
I also heard from a friend who asked BM about it and Brian said yes, even probationary pilots can bid.
Thought I'd throw that out there in case there are any probationary pilots that are senior to me that might not have bid for it otherwise
For September 2008, company offered monthly absences (COMA) will be offered to all Captain and First
Officers by virtue of seniority and will be granted upon staffing accommodations. (I added the bold)
I also heard from a friend who asked BM about it and Brian said yes, even probationary pilots can bid.
Thought I'd throw that out there in case there are any probationary pilots that are senior to me that might not have bid for it otherwise
07-30-2008, 05:09 AM
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Those of you considering COMA should be sure to read the COMA contract sections beforehand, as well as the sections discussing longevity and seniority on a LOA. You will continue to accrue seniority, but not longevity. Seniority is for bidding. Longevity is for pay and benefits. Get it?
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
07-30-2008, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by daniel0265
I am not just wondering if the COMA lines are a month at a time or will there be some that are week to week. Even bi-weekly
07-30-2008, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
Those of you considering COMA should be sure to read the COMA contract sections beforehand, as well as the sections discussing longevity and seniority on a LOA. You will continue to accrue seniority, but not longevity. Seniority is for bidding. Longevity is for pay and benefits. Get it?
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
"A pilot awarded a COMA will accrue and retain longevity and seniority"
07-30-2008, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
According to the memo they sent out, and section 9.I.15 of the contract -
"A pilot awarded a COMA will accrue and retain longevity and seniority"
"A pilot awarded a COMA will accrue and retain longevity and seniority"
07-30-2008, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
I should have been more clear. I was referring to a personal LOA. COMA is discussed in section 9.I.15, as you said.
Last edited by todd1200; 07-30-2008 at 01:31 PM.
07-30-2008, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
Those of you considering COMA should be sure to read the COMA contract sections beforehand, as well as the sections discussing longevity and seniority on a LOA. You will continue to accrue seniority, but not longevity. Seniority is for bidding. Longevity is for pay and benefits. Get it?
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
In other words, if you take an LOA, instead of getting your raise and extra week(s) of vacation on your anniversary date, it will be extended by the amount of leave you took. Same goes for probation if you are still on it.
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