However you need to justify it to make yourself feel better, but It's still 76 seats, just like the other company you are not so vaguely referring to.

 

I don't need to make myself feel better because I don't feel bad. My point is that as Mesaba or any other Airlink pilots we shouldn't feel bad to have the jobs we have. Mainline cast away certain bits of their flying and that's what we do. I don't feel bad one bit, since this is my path in career progression, just like everyone else. My point about being spawned from NWA wasn't a slam at the CP pilots what so ever. I was trying convey that it's BS for mainline pilots to complain about the flying we do at the Airlinks because THEY GAVE IT AWAY. Further, in CPs case, they used the opportunity for their own long term benefit by allowing CP to happen.

I don't however chomp at the bit for more flying at the expense of mainline, since I'd like a job there someday. I've been at Mesaba long enough to realize the more that gets farmed out to Airlink, the prospects for mainline jobs diminish.

 

Ok, everybody who was hired in the last year, what is happening right now is the norm for Mesaba. Stagnation.... All the movement of last year is abnormal. Get used to sitting where you are at because in this company, growth doesn't happen too often. I'm sorry to keep sounding so negative, but this company isn't known for happiness and rainbow kisses. Just ask any of your captains and they will tell you the same. We are at the tail end of the good times and anybody hired now will have to accept the fact that you will sit reserve for a very, very, very long time.....

 

I wouldn't necessarily agree with a very, very, very long time....Just wait a year and things will probably change drastically. I know guys at Northwest are just waiting to see with how much money they will get with the Delta merger, then they are retiring asap. things will change...people will move.

 

Don't worry about what we think because it isn't personal anyway. Do the best you can for yourself, get your 1000 pic turbine and get out to a major job...

 

Dude - I wouldn't exactly go to that extreme. Mesaba has always been one of the better regionals to work at. Granted, our company is not the same company of the 90s and before 9/11. Since then our mgmt has jumped on that same bandwagon most other airlines are all on... cut cut cut and let the employees shoulder them burden with little or no thanks for our work.

I still think we ought to be thankful at XJ... it could be much worse. To all our new guys (everyone hired since Ch11 emergence)... hang in there as said. Growth is coming to a close, but who knows what the merger has in store for us. You could be at worse places to ride out the storm. Everyone who wanted out who had the qualifications to leave could have done so since Ch11. The ones that truly were sick of it are gone... the ones that stayed must not think XJ is so bad. Think about that.

Oh... and by the way - NWA is not parking all their DC9s. They've actually slowly been parking them for awhile now, but are really accelerating the parking of the -30s this fall. Going into the merger there will be a sizeable fleet still flying around, namely the -40s, -50s and a some -30s.

 

I hope not and so should you!

 

Ironically, I think 9E's and mainline's interests might be aligned on this one--XJ takes over our rotes and DC-9 routes with the 900s!!!

 

If you want to get into the 9E game, those routes and those airplanes were never yours to begin with. You might want to think twice about posting on a mesaba thread when you are talking about your airlines interests.

 

Huh? They're all NWA routes... it's just a matter of what airplanes are allocated to the routes by NWA. It has nothing to do with Pinnacle. NWA has been allocating capacity to demand from the word go. Old DC9 routes became avro routes, which became CR2 routes which are becoming 900 and 175 routes. Old saab routes that probably warranted a bigger plane became CR2s the whole time your company was growing and Mesaba was shrinking. It's apart of the business and as long as NWA controls the marketing times, flight schedules and which gage of Airlink plane goes where, it's out of our control.