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stobelma 08-14-2008 04:22 PM

Hey I heard that once all the jets are on property, there is some sort of snap back in the contract that will return our pay to pre-bankruptcy pay skills. Is this true and what are they?

bored 08-14-2008 04:47 PM

We are scheduled to get some of the snap back this December 1. YOu can view the pay rates and the formula for the snap backs in LOA 23 of the contract. LOA 23 was the Ch11 concessionary deal.

jamesd 08-14-2008 07:03 PM

The 120 limit will also be increased by three with each additional aircraft received by delta/NW.

stobelma 08-14-2008 10:41 PM

Yeah im not sure how all the percentages work so i was hoping someone would do it for me.

xj200capt 08-15-2008 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by stobelma (Post 444677)
Yeah im not sure how all the percentages work so i was hoping someone would do it for me.

Open LOA 23. Then go to the very end of the .pdf file and page backwards until you find the correct DOS rates. This December will be DOS+2.

Then find the rate category for your time with company and equipment (i.e. 5-6 year and 40 to 50 seat jet).

The rate shown is based on 49 SAABs + 12 (whatever types). Find your specific rate then add 1.5% to that rate and thats what you will be getting paid as of December 1st.

stobelma 08-15-2008 05:45 AM

There we go.....thanks

Justdoinmyjob 08-15-2008 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by RatherBGolfin (Post 444518)
From what I understand (told by MN in recurrent) is you have to take the CP's 36 out of the equation because they are included in the exemption (over 86,000 lbs) That makes the total number 156 76 seaters (120 <86,000 lbs and CP's exempted 36).

That may be their interpratation. However, DALPA's is they do count towards the 120. They are only exempted from the weight restriction. I guess we can plan on seeing a grievance filed if they try and go down that road.

gredenko 08-15-2008 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 443961)
And we also have those AE Saabs coming too! Can't wait. . .

The AE Saabs are being sold off to random operators around the world.

Put this 12 hour Saab flight in your pipe and smoke it!

FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > N382AE > 09-Aug-2008 > KNYL-PLCH

LoudFastRules 08-16-2008 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by stobelma (Post 444537)
Hey I heard that once all the jets are on property, there is some sort of snap back in the contract that will return our pay to pre-bankruptcy pay skills. Is this true and what are they?

Yes, you can thank ALPA for that snapback.

LoudFastRules 08-16-2008 07:22 PM

Nevermind. Too much work, not enough sleep....


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