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08-13-2008 | 10:12 PM
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It seems that about 40% of the new hire pilots at my regional are not native english speakers. Are you other guys having as many problems with the radio skills of your new FO's? My last FO had to check on with everyone about 3 times before they got our callsign right let alone our flight number. I had to override many calls just to end them in a timely fashion. Granted my second language skills are not as good as his were but my job does not depend on them. When does this become a safety issue that I should get the training department involved? Also for you training guys out there, why are you letting them through the IOE phase if it is happening online?
If the FAA wants our new "English" rating on our certificates, shouldn't someone be verifying the individual can pass the "speak" portion of the FAR?
If the FAA wants our new "English" rating on our certificates, shouldn't someone be verifying the individual can pass the "speak" portion of the FAR?
08-13-2008 | 10:20 PM
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The students at the airport I instruct at(PDK) are mostly Indian...the controllers really have to be patient in trying to understand them...granted some of these are student/private pilots but there's not much improvement even through their commercial before they head back to India.
Spoke to a US Airways 737 Capt the other day on a flight and he said he recently rode the jumpseat on a Mesa flight...the Capt was Chinese, the FO was Indian and both spoke the worst English he had ever heard....said the communication gap was amazing to witness...almost scary.
I think the foreign student enrollment is strong over here in the States and the non-native english speaking folks will continue on.
Spoke to a US Airways 737 Capt the other day on a flight and he said he recently rode the jumpseat on a Mesa flight...the Capt was Chinese, the FO was Indian and both spoke the worst English he had ever heard....said the communication gap was amazing to witness...almost scary.
I think the foreign student enrollment is strong over here in the States and the non-native english speaking folks will continue on.
08-13-2008 | 10:28 PM
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I just called the UAL nonrev line and was put on hold. There was this guy giving tips in the background with a very strong Spanish accent I couldn't understand half of his recommendations. Times are changing if they actually put people with accents on lines where it's critical that the person is understood. As far as flying I've never had any problems with the guys that I've flown with including one who had a strong Spanish accent. But then again, if those Air China/China Eastern guys can manage to talk their way from China all the way to the States, how hard can aviation communications be right?
08-14-2008 | 05:20 AM
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When I worked in Europe we had to take a 'voice' course as part of the training. I am a native English speaker and scoffed at the idea. Until I actually started flying around Europe to 20 different countries with 20 different languages and accents. The standardization that existed there allowed for far less confusion.
I would advocate the same standardization here in the US. It really does reduce confusion if you are saying and listening to the same things for the same procedures.
I would advocate the same standardization here in the US. It really does reduce confusion if you are saying and listening to the same things for the same procedures.
08-14-2008 | 07:23 AM
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