No commuter clause /w Hurricane
#11
No he's probbaly joking.......
Yes it is easy to veryify "dude". Calling in and telling the company you're sick is all the verification they need. How else would they? A doctors note? Fax them the back of your medical then. At no point is your company allowed to pressure you into flying sick. If you call in and tell them you're sick that's all they need to know. Anything else is against the regs.
Who's to say he hasn't been sick? What is he going to do if he actually gets sick? Easy. He'll pick up the phone, dial the company number, wait for crew scheduling then say "I'm calling out sick today see ya".
He's not simply NOT showing up for work. He's calling out sick. There are FARs against making a pilot fly sick for a reason. If he gets called to the principles office then there are two things you do.
A) You call your union and make sure you have representation from them at your meeting.
B) You call the FAA and make sure you have representation from them at your meeting.
Your airline will do nothing.
You are an airline pilot and even though you use the word DUDE you should know this. I'm wondering which post is the actual joke here.
4 sick calls in 15 months is NOTHING. I average about 5. I know people who have passed 14 calls this year. In this profession it's easy to get sick. One day I flew from CLE to RDU. CLE was 26 degrees F and RDU was 81 degrees F. I went CLE-RDU, RDU-CLE, CLE-RDU, RDU-CLE that day. The human body isn't built for those types of extreme changes. I went sick the next day. This happens all over the place. No reason to be afraid of it. One time I actually flew feeling a little under the weather the week before the 4th of July and it was the worst decision.
Bryce you do what you gotta do. Try and get there the day before. If that's not an option then call.
DUDE... at my airline, you'd already be gone, unless you had a real "medical" problem, which is quite easy to verify.
At just 15 months at the company, that probably translates to just about 12 months on the line, 4 sick calls means about 1 every 3 months. What are you gonna do if you actually get "sick."
Not showing up for work at most places will get you a trip to the "Principal's office," as it should. Why don't you let us know if you get the paddle, or the "boot" during your visit.
A) You call your union and make sure you have representation from them at your meeting.
B) You call the FAA and make sure you have representation from them at your meeting.
Your airline will do nothing.
You are an airline pilot and even though you use the word DUDE you should know this. I'm wondering which post is the actual joke here.
4 sick calls in 15 months is NOTHING. I average about 5. I know people who have passed 14 calls this year. In this profession it's easy to get sick. One day I flew from CLE to RDU. CLE was 26 degrees F and RDU was 81 degrees F. I went CLE-RDU, RDU-CLE, CLE-RDU, RDU-CLE that day. The human body isn't built for those types of extreme changes. I went sick the next day. This happens all over the place. No reason to be afraid of it. One time I actually flew feeling a little under the weather the week before the 4th of July and it was the worst decision.
Bryce you do what you gotta do. Try and get there the day before. If that's not an option then call.
Last edited by ToiletDuck; 08-18-2008 at 09:26 AM.
#12
Four sick calls in 15 months would be nothing at all. If you SAY you're sick, then YOU ARE SICK. The regs clearly state that it is the pilot's duty to determine his/her fitness to fly. It's really as easy as that. The law is on your side. DO NOT FLY SICK. The decision to call in sick when you are sick has nothing to do with how many prior sick calls you have. It is your duty, and the law, to not fly sick.
Now the above applies to when you really are sick.
As far as burning a "sick" call when you have no commuter clause and can't make the commute, well, the company's not really giving you any other options, are they. Do your very best to make the commute, within reason.
I will repeat: Do your very best to make the commute, within reason.
After that, do what you have to do, and don't look back.
Now the above applies to when you really are sick.
As far as burning a "sick" call when you have no commuter clause and can't make the commute, well, the company's not really giving you any other options, are they. Do your very best to make the commute, within reason.
I will repeat: Do your very best to make the commute, within reason.
After that, do what you have to do, and don't look back.
#14
Why would you even think about going to work and leaving your home less protected and your wife to sit through a hurricane by herself???. I would not think for more than two seconds about this before I called the CP and said I was going to miss the trip to protect my property and family during a hurricane. If they can't handle that then you have a lot more problems with your company than worrying about calling in sick 4 times in 15 months.
#15
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What? What crapbag nazi airline do you work for?? Getting fired for four sick calls in a year is preposterous. I've been sick four times this year already, which is not at all surprising considering the nights sleeping in the crew lounge because I can't afford a hotel, the frequent reduced rest, constantly changing time zones, and exposure to the disease-ridden masses on a daily basis. Flying while sick is unacceptable, and if your company pressures people to "limit" how many times they can catch a cold they should be put out of business in this country.
#16
What? What crapbag nazi airline do you work for?? Getting fired for four sick calls in a year is preposterous. I've been sick four times this year already, which is not at all surprising considering the nights sleeping in the crew lounge because I can't afford a hotel, the frequent reduced rest, constantly changing time zones, and exposure to the disease-ridden masses on a daily basis. Flying while sick is unacceptable, and if your company pressures people to "limit" how many times they can catch a cold they should be put out of business in this country.
#17
Bryris.
Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Dude, I say call in sick or call RZ and tell him you have to take care of your wife and your house due to the impending hurricane. Don't bother calling an FM, they will tell you to call Z anyway after giving you the GOM schpeel on why you should be at work. Either way, don't leave the wife there by herself to ride out the storm. Sure fire way to be sleeping on the couch for a while.
Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Dude, I say call in sick or call RZ and tell him you have to take care of your wife and your house due to the impending hurricane. Don't bother calling an FM, they will tell you to call Z anyway after giving you the GOM schpeel on why you should be at work. Either way, don't leave the wife there by herself to ride out the storm. Sure fire way to be sleeping on the couch for a while.
Last edited by Herbie; 08-18-2008 at 11:53 AM.
#18
Bryris.
Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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#20
Bryris.
Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Dude, I say call in sick or call RZ and tell him you have to take care of your wife and your house due to the impending hurricane. Don't bother calling an FM, they will tell you to call Z anyway after giving you the GOM schpeel on why you should be at work. Either way, don't leave the wife there by herself to ride out the storm. Sure fire way to be sleeping on the couch for a while.
Probably a good idea just for the simple fact that we now need a doctors note if we call in sick for a trip that has any flying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Gotta love the fact that we can be trusted with the lives of 50 people and a multi-million dollar airplane, but we are still treated like 3rd graders. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Dude, I say call in sick or call RZ and tell him you have to take care of your wife and your house due to the impending hurricane. Don't bother calling an FM, they will tell you to call Z anyway after giving you the GOM schpeel on why you should be at work. Either way, don't leave the wife there by herself to ride out the storm. Sure fire way to be sleeping on the couch for a while.
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