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sigep_nm 08-31-2008 07:38 AM

Logging CRJ time
 
I tried to search for this but couldnt find it. Anyways what do you put in your logbook for aircraft type for a CRJ-900? I think just one answer will suffice and then this can be closed. Thanks

navigatro 08-31-2008 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 453194)
I tried to search for this but couldnt find it. Anyways what do you put in your logbook for aircraft type for a CRJ-900? I think just one answer will suffice and then this can be closed. Thanks


Come on, do you really think that this will be closed after one answer?

We need to have some fun here.

I think that if you tell people you fly the "9", then you may as well log it as DC-9 time (PIC of course.)

sigep_nm 08-31-2008 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 453195)
Come on, do you really think that this will be closed after one answer?

We need to have some fun here.

I think that if you tell people you fly the "9", then you may as well log it as DC-9 time (PIC of course.)

Well I used to fly the SAAB so I dont think I will make the "9" mistake, and everytime I preflight I still look for the four blades of death that seem to be missing on all of the 900's

boost 08-31-2008 07:51 AM

CL65, same as the other CRJ's and same as it says on the back of your license if you have a type rating.

doogiebarnes 08-31-2008 07:54 AM

How will anyone know how kick "A" I am unless I log it as nine hundee time?

viper548 08-31-2008 08:02 AM

I put CRJ-900

MatthewAMEL 08-31-2008 08:15 AM

Well, I always use the FAA Type designations.

AOPA Online: FAA Order 7110.65, Air Traffic Control, Appendix A - Aircraft designators

So, CRJ9 as far as the FAA is concerned.

mooney 08-31-2008 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 453211)
Well, I always use the FAA Type designations.

AOPA Online: FAA Order 7110.65, Air Traffic Control, Appendix A - Aircraft designators

So, CRJ9 as far as the FAA is concerned.

There is no CRJ9 type rating. What you referenced is for ATC, not pilots. That is what shows up on the controller's screen so he knows the performance capabilities of the aircraft.

My type rating says CL-65 for the -200 and -900. So I am going to put CL-65 in my logbook. However, it is YOUR logbook, so put crj900, cl65, crj9, who cares as long as you can explain why you did it. Who knows you might be applying for a job where they want to know your total jet time of an a/c with MTOW over 55,000 lbs, it would be nice to differentiate them . My biggest pet peeve going through interviews was the HR guy that would ask me why some of my logbook entries were in blue ink and not all black ink. Because it's MY logbook buddy, plus the instructors put some entries in there too.

The Dude Abides 08-31-2008 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by doogiebarnes (Post 453203)
How will anyone know how kick "A" I am unless I log it as nine hundee time?

I know, I wouldn't want people to think I fly something that has to step climb. Eww. When I introduce myself I tell people I fly CRJ-900's for Northwest Airlines. Ok, just trying to bust your balls a little. I fly the Q400 and wouldn't want anyone thinking I fly the 200:D

JetPilotMike 08-31-2008 08:39 AM

Cl-600-2d24

rickair7777 08-31-2008 08:41 AM

CL-65 is the technically correct way to log all CRJ time.

I suppose it's remotely possible that you might need to break them out at an interview someday...you could CL-65/9 I suppose.

Seattlecfi 08-31-2008 08:53 AM

I logged mine CRJ2 or CRJ7. I didn't get a single question about it during my interviews. It is your logbook, just look it how you wish.

JetAV8er 08-31-2008 09:16 AM

CL-65

(then add a comment in the notes/remark section for -900, -200 etc.)

rickair7777 08-31-2008 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Seattlecfi (Post 453230)
I logged mine CRJ2 or CRJ7. I didn't get a single question about it during my interviews. It is your logbook, just look it how you wish.

The reality is nobody should care unless you get a detail-freak at an interview. Just don't act like your 900 time was somehow better than 200 time :eek:

MatthewAMEL 08-31-2008 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 453217)
My type rating says CL-65 for the -200 and -900. So I am going to put CL-65 in my logbook. However, it is YOUR logbook

Easy there, chief. It says CL-65 on my type rating too. All of my PIC hours are in the -200.

In my experience during interviews with other airlines, CRJ2 requires no explanations!

BTW- if you use LogTen software, it keys on the FAA Type (CL2, B737, etc) and fills out all the relevant A/C information for you (Type required, >55K lbs, etc.). That's what got me in the habit.

higney85 08-31-2008 10:21 AM

CL-65 but in remarks I may have (next to the flight number) the CR9/CR7/CR2 detail if I flew multiple variations. Only reason is I believe the 900 qualifies different if you ever look to transfer ratings to ICAO or JAA. I don't know all the details but there is a weight thing in there somewhere. I only fly the -200 so under type I put CL-65 and within logbook pro it lists the aircraft as CL-65 (CL-6002B19) which currently is easy since the 200 is the only Jet time I have.

sigep_nm 08-31-2008 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 453280)
Easy there, chief. It says CL-65 on my type rating too. All of my PIC hours are in the -200.

In my experience during interviews with other airlines, CRJ2 requires no explanations!

BTW- if you use LogTen software, it keys on the FAA Type (CL2, B737, etc) and fills out all the relevant A/C information for you (Type required, >55K lbs, etc.). That's what got me in the habit.

Thanks for the info guys, however I cant believe this thread reached two pages and in someway or another actually created an argument of sorts.

mooney 08-31-2008 11:14 AM

yeah I can't figure out what I said that required a "easy there chief" comeback :) unless he thought my "buddy" was directed at him but if you read the context it is not.....the world may never know!

PILOTGUY 08-31-2008 01:23 PM

The only people that would care would be the interviewers at Cathay Pacific. Oh, and when you fly a "next gen" 900, log that as a note because they will want to know how much of each....lmao.

higney85 08-31-2008 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by PILOTGUY (Post 453357)
The only people that would care would be the interviewers at Cathay Pacific. Oh, and when you fly a "next gen" 900, log that as a note because they will want to know how much of each....lmao.

Not only is it CRJ HEAVY time its also "long haul international" when you go to the carribean, canada, and mexico. Plus, in the unemployment line you can say you flew the big iron!




(sarcasm for those who don't realize it...)

Noseeums 08-31-2008 01:39 PM

nobody will ever care how you log this airplane...

http://johnmcgrew.net/WWTT/38D.jpg

mooney 08-31-2008 01:47 PM

is $49.99 the hourly rate to fly the jet or the cost of the RJ transition program where "We guaran-damn-tee that you might get an interview and we also guarantee that you might be hired or your money back!!"

USMC3197 08-31-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 453367)
nobody will ever care how you log this airplane...

http://johnmcgrew.net/WWTT/38D.jpg

LMAO.............

jmoney 08-31-2008 06:50 PM

PLEASE-

Just don't forget to wear your FO epaulets backwards to signify to all the lesser mortals that you "fly the nine." And please don't forget to accompany this detail with the backpack, I-Pod and lots of hair gel!

-Only way to ensure you are afforded the proper respect!

MatthewAMEL 08-31-2008 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by jmoney (Post 453474)
PLEASE-

Just don't forget to wear your FO epaulets backwards to signify to all the lesser mortals that you "fly the nine." And please don't forget to accompany this detail with the backpack, I-Pod and lots of hair gel!

-Only way to ensure you are afforded the proper respect!

Is that your own iPod or one you "borrowed" while going through security?! :D

higney85 08-31-2008 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by jmoney (Post 453474)
PLEASE-

Just don't forget to wear your FO epaulets backwards to signify to all the lesser mortals that you "fly the nine." And please don't forget to accompany this detail with the backpack, I-Pod and lots of hair gel!

-Only way to ensure you are afforded the proper respect!


So old school.... Now its all about the iPhone! Plus, its getting close to leather jacket season!

jmoney 08-31-2008 07:55 PM

DANG!

You are totally correct. Just like in the II-Phone commercial, we could call our trusty dispatcher and let him know that we had just pulled up the weather with our trusty I-Phone and things are looking better.

Of course, any foolish dispatcher who would possibly be stubborn at this point, would certainly crumble under the pressure when Informed that we "fly the 9." Now, jelly at our fingertips, the said dispatcher could easily be talked into seeing things our way!

ToiletDuck 08-31-2008 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 453194)
I tried to search for this but couldnt find it. Anyways what do you put in your logbook for aircraft type for a CRJ-900? I think just one answer will suffice and then this can be closed. Thanks

Did you read that little white temp. certificate they gave you?

While we're at it I'd like to know how people log their ERJ 135, 140, and 145 times.

bustinmins 08-31-2008 08:48 PM

I put a note in the back of my log and stated that all CL-65 entries would be noted by the following designators: CRJ2, CRJ7 and CRJ9. I signed it and put my digits behind it. It's good to know the differences because if you have an application that has a/c weight listed on it, then you'll know how much of what weight you have flown.

Doing this worked for me!

TurboFan 08-31-2008 11:00 PM

Would someone like to reference that FAR and/or regulation or ANY regulatory document that states that there is a specific way to fill out your logbook? As far as I know, a log in any form is only required to show currency requirements. As a matter of fact, technically I don't believe you are required to log any of your flight time except for that required for currency.

I'm just curious where some of you get this "technically you should log CL-65" and just for continuity, let's define 'technically':
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technically |ˈteknik(ə)lē|
adverb
1 [usu. sentence adverb ] according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly : technically, a nut is a single-seeded fruit.
2 with reference to the technique displayed : a technically brilliant boxing contest.
3 involving or regarding the technology available : technically advanced tools.
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I'm just saying I think 'technically' you can put whatever you want.

sigep_nm 09-01-2008 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 453539)
Did you read that little white temp. certificate they gave you?

While we're at it I'd like to know how people log their ERJ 135, 140, and 145 times.

In fact I did believe it or not, by the way flown any merlins lately? Does the 145 have a GPS? Those damn things can be pretty tricky.

Clue32 09-01-2008 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by TurboFan (Post 453564)
Would someone like to reference that FAR and/or regulation or ANY regulatory document that states that there is a specific way to fill out your logbook? As far as I know, a log in any form is only required to show currency requirements. As a matter of fact, technically I don't believe you are required to log any of your flight time except for that required for currency.

FAR 61.45

(a) Training time and aeronautical experience. Each person must document and record the following time in a manner acceptable to the Administrator:
(1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part.
(2) The aeronautical experience required for meeting the recent flight experience requirements of this part.
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109(b) of this chapter.


I'd go with CL65 and if your airline has you fly 2/7/or9's put annotate that in the remarks section. But with that said I log my RC-12K time as just that and not B300 time. I'm not going to change it mid way though so as to keep some sort of standard to my entries.

JetFlyer06 09-01-2008 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by jmoney (Post 453474)
PLEASE-

Just don't forget to wear your FO epaulets backwards to signify to all the lesser mortals that you "fly the nine." And please don't forget to accompany this detail with the backpack, I-Pod and lots of hair gel!

-Only way to ensure you are afforded the proper respect!

Don't forget to get your tips frosted too! :D

ToiletDuck 09-01-2008 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 453582)
In fact I did believe it or not, by the way flown any merlins lately? Does the 145 have a GPS? Those damn things can be pretty tricky.

If I was flying them I'd know how to log them.:rolleyes: Yes the 145 has GPS. So you looked at your certificate. Saw exactly what the type was called on it, went through all the training to fly the thing with other people in your class along with the instructor, and some how it only hit you to ask here about how to long it? I smell Shiny Jet Syndrome! How do you log 900 time you ask? WITH PRIDE AND A SMILE!!!

ToiletDuck 09-01-2008 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 453589)
Don't forget to get your tips frosted too! :D

And to wear your sunglasses off your strips when walking through the terminal!

sigep_nm 09-01-2008 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 453597)
If I was flying them I'd know how to log them.:rolleyes: Yes the 145 has GPS.

Thats good at least you know how to log them, from my memory you had no clue how to fly them:rolleyes:

ToiletDuck 09-01-2008 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 453599)
Thats good at least you know how to log them, from my memory you had no clue how to fly them:rolleyes:

You're right. They just got up and down on PFM! Yet you walk around a jet looking for props.

Noseeums 09-01-2008 04:16 AM

CL-600-2B19 = CRJ-200
CL-600-2C10 = CRJ-700
CL-600-2D24 = CRJ-900

simple as that.

higney85 09-01-2008 05:52 AM

how dare you try and "right the thread"! haha

navigatro 09-01-2008 06:33 AM

What is a logbook?


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