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Originally Posted by gooneybird_71
(Post 469284)
I am curious do u work for mainline? Let me tell you then cause u might understand a little about how our day's work I have been here for eight years so I am just a little experienced at this. when you have a 2day trip scheduled, and u have 6 legs on day one all with 20 min turns with a 13.5 hour duty day scheduled and no crew meals for breakfast and the only place that there will even be an opportunity to eat for the whole day and you have a problem with a crew getting food give me a break! what do u think we are machines.when I tell my crew to take a food break u think were doing it to be spiteful?wow u have no idea.
Next time you nonrev jumpseat whatever youi do why dont you ask the crew what kind of day they r having you might have a better insight. I am done being pi---d off.. Anyone else want to jump in??:(:( No...I think you adequately covered that. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 469118)
Just a small point about the Delta effect. Delta management almost two years ago finally grew a pair and told all the connection carriers that if they did not perform they could expect to be cut. Both Mesa and Comair's performance can only be called abhorrant. Comair is last in virtually every measure of customer service looking at every airline in the country. I have waited for Comair flights while crews went off to eat for 45 minutes on a scheduled 30 minute turn at 11 in the morning. I have even heard Comair flight crews make statements like F___ Em, They are Delta's passengers. If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today.
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Originally Posted by gooneybird_71
(Post 469284)
I am curious do u work for mainline? Let me tell you then cause u might understand a little about how our day's work I have been here for eight years so I am just a little experienced at this. when you have a 2day trip scheduled, and u have 6 legs on day one all with 20 min turns with a 13.5 hour duty day scheduled and no crew meals for breakfast and the only place that there will even be an opportunity to eat for the whole day and you have a problem with a crew getting food give me a break! what do u think we are machines.when I tell my crew to take a food break u think were doing it to be spiteful?wow u have no idea.
Next time you nonrev jumpseat whatever youi do why dont you ask the crew what kind of day they r having you might have a better insight. I am done being pi---d off.. Anyone else want to jump in??:(:( I think its great to fight for better work rules, my airline has great work rules and it definitely makes the job more enjoyable, just make sure you're not cutting off your nose to spite your face. Also, may I suggest the luggage works regal cooler. I pack almost all my food for a four day trip in this little guy. It has turned out to be a more economical and healthier alternative to buying food on the road. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 469118)
Delta management almost two years ago finally grew a pair and told all the connection carriers that if they did not perform they could expect to be cut.
Both Mesa and Comair's performance can only be called abhorrant. Comair is last in virtually every measure of customer service looking at every airline in the country. I have waited for Comair flights while crews went off to eat for 45 minutes on a scheduled 30 minute turn at 11 in the morning. I have even heard Comair flight crews make statements like F___ Em, They are Delta's passengers. If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today. I already feel better:D |
Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 469316)
Also, may I suggest the luggage works regal cooler. I pack almost all my food for a four day trip in this little guy. It has turned out to be a more economical and healthier alternative to buying food on the road.
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Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 469316)
I understand what you're saying however I tend to disagree on the principle. You work for a regional, which is the evolved version of a commuter, in essence, a stepping stone. If you ask most of the mainline guys about the "work rules" at the commuters they worked for, they would laugh at you. I'm also an RJ operator, but I understand that this isn't supposed to be a cushy job. We aren't mainline pilots and as long as regionals are stepping stone type operations you can expect the work rules to be sub par. I'm not condoning this eventuality, I'm merely commenting on its origins and seemingly perpetual existence given the circumstances.
I think its great to fight for better work rules, my airline has great work rules and it definitely makes the job more enjoyable, just make sure you're not cutting off your nose to spite your face. Also, may I suggest the luggage works regal cooler. I pack almost all my food for a four day trip in this little guy. It has turned out to be a more economical and healthier alternative to buying food on the road. |
Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop
(Post 469395)
Whatever happened to the captains that would say, during a quick turn with a hungry crew: "hey, I'll get the walkaround and breakfast for you two. Please get the outbound flight ready and boarded. See you in 10 - 15 minutes." ???
There are lots of lazy disgruntled Captains at the regionals who are ****ed about having this "stepping stone" job turn into the end of the line for them through no fault of their own. Many were getting ready to move on to the majors when 9/11 happened. Now they are stuck because they can't afford to leave. Can't say as I blame them. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 469118)
Just a small point about the Delta effect. Delta management almost two years ago finally grew a pair and told all the connection carriers that if they did not perform they could expect to be cut.
... If Comairs performance had been top notch they would be a much larger airline today. Delta started reducing Comair much more than two years ago. Comair's numbers were among the better ones out there when Delta, in all their wisdom, decided to add: Freedom, CHQ, Republic, Pinnacle, BigSky, ACA, XJet, etc. to the mix. Comair's numbers were still better than average when Delta RFP'd Comair flying in 2006. Saying Delta is shrinking Comair because the pilots' morale is in the toilet is like saying America West bought USAir because the East pilots are disgruntled. So if you're looking for a cause and effect relationship, can you explain the repeated pay cuts and QOL hits Delta handed the Comair pilots back when their performance numbers were above average? Or would it be more accurate to say that Comair would be "a much larger airline today" if they had not struck Delta for 89 days to improve regional pay and workrules? |
I thought this is a MESA furlough thread.
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