RAH contract question?
09-14-2008, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mav204
I think that reminding the RAH guys that they NEED better work rules and pay rates is productive!
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
09-14-2008, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
"Fatigue "isn't a tremendous issue" for the 2,000 pilots at Republic Airways Holdings Inc., which owns three commuter carriers, according to Wayne Heller, chief operating officer, adding that the airline's work rules are stricter than the FAA's. "If we have fatigue," he says, "it's due to unplanned circumstances" outside the company's control."
After seing this assinine staement, just what kind of trip rigs do you have in your contract and does one contract cover all the units?
After seing this assinine staement, just what kind of trip rigs do you have in your contract and does one contract cover all the units?
09-14-2008, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mav204
I think that reminding the RAH guys that they NEED better work rules and pay rates is productive!
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
09-14-2008, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mav204
I think that reminding the RAH guys that they NEED better work rules and pay rates is productive!
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
I know that my contract isn't perfect, but it at least it pays me for what I fly! And I WILL NOT take concessions to fly a bigger aircraft
09-14-2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
How much should a 70 seat CA make?
09-14-2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
Um, the problem is our contract does pay us for what we fly. trip rigs, duty rigs, and cancellation pay fall under the category of getting paid while not flying. We only get paid to fly (and deadhead). And I still fail to see how our current 70 and 78 seat pay scales are at all concessionary, considering they were an improvement over our previous contract, and they are on par with or better than nearly every regional. No pay cuts were enacted to get the larger aircraft on property (they were not on property at the time of contract signing), and pay rates on all aircraft went up at contract signing. There are no talks of pay concessions during current negotiations, no dangling carrot of larger aircraft from management, and no pressure from management to give concessions during the current financial woes of our industry.
09-15-2008, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
Trip Rigs don't prevent fatigue. They may give incentive for the company to avoid unproductive schedules, but even a productive trip can be fatiguing. I just finished a 20 hour 3 day, which would not have benefited from trip or duty rigs, and I was plenty tired by the end.
Maybe you should have just dropped it, or can't you do that?
09-15-2008, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
Maybe you should have just dropped it, or can't you do that?
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