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atlmsl 09-18-2008 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 464239)
I've never been a real big fan of BH but no news is good news………........or would you prefer a portion of your pilot group standing in the unemployment line?

I've heard a few SKW guys say they don't like BH. Did he do something there that we don't know about. Most of ASA has only good things to say about him.

JetPipeOverht 09-18-2008 04:28 PM

He's a bulldog who doesn't take cr@p from anyone and holds people accountable for their actions....i suppose they didn't enjoy that over there

broncoflyer8912 09-18-2008 05:29 PM

ATR retirement party tomorrow, there will be punch, and everyone will get to put there John Hancock on the bird as we send her back to the manufacturer.

JetJock16 09-18-2008 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 464342)
He's a bulldog who doesn't take cr@p from anyone and holds people accountable for their actions....i suppose they didn't enjoy that over there

I'm glad to see you all are drinking his Kool-Aid. BTW he's no bulldog, we’ve accomplished 5 times more without him than we did with him.

Good riddance.

atlmsl 09-18-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 464402)
I'm glad to see you all are drinking his Kool-Aid. BTW he's no bulldog, we’ve accomplished 5 times more without him than we did with him.

Good riddance.

What was his position over there? It's interesting to hear the comparison because we've accomplished 5 times more with him here than we did without him. Maybe it was good for both of us. I'm just curious as to the dislike from SKW.

MatchPoint 09-18-2008 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by atlmsl (Post 464429)
What was his position over there? It's interesting to hear the comparison because we've accomplished 5 times more with him here than we did without him. Maybe it was good for both of us. I'm just curious as to the dislike from SKW.

Director of FLT Ops. He was more like a bump on a log in FLT Ops; I'm not saying that he's a bad guy. He was just more of a road block who never listened and didn't seem to give a cr*p about his pilots.

He's also one of the reasons why our then President of SAPA is now at Alaska Airlines, having feared for his job and decided to seek greener pastures.

JetJock16 09-18-2008 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 464451)
Director of FLT Ops. He was more like a bump on a log in FLT Ops; I'm not saying that he's a bad guy. He was just more of a road block who never listened and didn't seem to give a cr*p about his pilots.

He's also one of the reasons why our then President of SAPA is now at Alaska Airlines, having feared for his job and decided to seek greener pastures.

Yes, that was a BS move on Mgmnt's (BH) part. It's a rather long story for those who don't know but it all went down around the time the ALPA drive was in full swing as well as the ALPA lawsuit. Our then President was an ALPA supporter and a huge pilot advocate. He (our then SAPA Pres.) tried to hold BH and Mgmnt accountable for their promises and policies. They say that you could hear him yelling at BH from the other side of St. George telling him that if SKW wants to remain union free they better start holding up their end, BH was a true road block in our progress. The best part was that once BH had left and we got a new SAPA president, we ended up with almost everything our then President was working for.

We had a good relationship with Mgmnt when Holt was here, but now that he's gone we have a good working relationship with Mgmnt.

tyrael37 09-18-2008 07:17 PM

I might be a little late on the uptake, but I did notice that all if not most of October's flying has flight numbers that in the 5###'s. Anyone know Delta's new number scheme? Who was in the 5K before the switch?

USMC3197 09-18-2008 07:18 PM

I agree with atlmsl, sounds like it worked out well for both ASA and SKW. I personally have nothing bad to say about BH. He is the only CPO I have had that responded to e-mails from a little old line worker, me. Shows me that everyone ones word matters to him and the company. It also also good to hear that you guys at SKW are happy, we are graded as a whole on wall st.

USMC3197 09-18-2008 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by tyrael37 (Post 464464)
I might be a little late on the uptake, but I did notice that all if not most of October's flying has flight numbers that in the 5###'s. Anyone know Delta's new number scheme? Who was in the 5K before the switch?

There was an e-mail out that said that ASA was going to start using 4### and 5### from Delta. I think the reason was in the e-mail but I dont remember what it was.


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