Jumpseating appearance
09-21-2008 | 09:23 PM
#31
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
09-22-2008 | 09:10 AM
#32
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From: BassTracker
i kicked off a guy in jeans a few weeks ago. Jeans, flip flops and tshirt. looked like he came straight from a frat party. not only because my fom prohibits jeans, but so the pax dont think it is "bring your kid to work" day. it's really no harder to put on a pair of khakis and look professional than it is to put on jeans. grow up.
Boy RJ pilots cooler than I thought. I bet you have told this story to every FO since. After you make them call you Captain of course.
09-22-2008 | 09:18 AM
#33
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From: FedEx
Not that I don't believe you, but I find that hard to believe. The one time I've ridden on FedEx thus far, I was going from ORD to MEM. There were 5 jumpseaters on the MD-10, 4 FedEx guys and myself. Of the 8 people on board the airplane, 3 of us were in uniform...myself and the working crew. The other guys were in polo shirts and jeans. Some even had sneakers on.
I plan on using FedEx quite a bit more as they are the easiest way for me to get from the paradise that is the West Coast to the Sewer. I plan on being in uniform as I will be reporting for work. I'll get the opinion from the crews I ride with. FedEx is awesome. You guys treat offline guys great. The ride (and subsequent rides) were much appreciated and I look forward to using you guys again. You're always welcome on XJT...anytime!
I plan on using FedEx quite a bit more as they are the easiest way for me to get from the paradise that is the West Coast to the Sewer. I plan on being in uniform as I will be reporting for work. I'll get the opinion from the crews I ride with. FedEx is awesome. You guys treat offline guys great. The ride (and subsequent rides) were much appreciated and I look forward to using you guys again. You're always welcome on XJT...anytime!
I would not show up like that though if I were from another airline, nor should we show up like that to ride on yours. Our policy is business casual or uniform for offline jumpseating or deadheading, unless the carrier requires something more restrictive.
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09-22-2008 | 09:25 AM
#34
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09-22-2008 | 09:27 AM
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09-22-2008 | 09:31 AM
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It's not about respect, it's about being on a power trip, especially as a regional pilot. I jump on Southwest all the time in everything short of flipflops everyone couldn't be nicer.
09-22-2008 | 09:39 AM
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From: CL-65 captain
That's rediculous. I could take a 20 year old guy in torn blue jeans, a tshirt with holes in in or flip flops, or a mainline guy who actually respects the professional courtesy and is nicely dressed I picked the latter. Live with it.
09-22-2008 | 09:40 AM
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From: Looking out the window
IMO, the bottom line is every situation is different. Example, this spring in GSO we showed up to find that a *possible* tornado had come over the field. NWA, Comair, AWAC planes all over the ramp grounded. Needless to say lots of cx'd flights. An offline pilot in jeans and sandals came up to ask if she could sit up front. There were 20 open seats last night and now 1/2 the flights were cx'd. On her way to a friend's wedding, given the cirumstances, I let her on. Would other people, maybe? Unless it specifically says something in the FOM, I treat every situation as it comes up.
09-22-2008 | 09:46 AM
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From: CL-65 captain
IMO, the bottom line is every situation is different. Example, this spring in GSO we showed up to find that a *possible* tornado had come over the field. NWA, Comair, AWAC planes all over the ramp grounded. Needless to say lots of cx'd flights. An offline pilot in jeans and sandals came up to ask if she could sit up front. There were 20 open seats last night and now 1/2 the flights were cx'd. On her way to a friend's wedding, given the cirumstances, I let her on. Would other people, maybe? Unless it specifically says something in the FOM, I treat every situation as it comes up.
09-22-2008 | 09:46 AM
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From: DAL Pilot
It has nothing to do with being on a power trip. We follow the rules, because that's what we're PAID to do. It's part of being a professional pilot, and respecting yourself, the rules, and others. As a jumpseater, it's your responsibility to know the dress code for whatever airline you're on. Southwest may be more lax while other airlines are more strict. Just cuz it's ok to jumpseat Southwest in flip flops, doesn't make it ok on Delta. And for that matter, I highly doubt it's ok to jumpseat Southwest in flip flops. I'd almost guarantee their FOM requires business casual attire. To put the Captain of that flight in a position to have to decide whether to kick you off because of your attire is unfair and unprofessional.
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