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#41
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
I remember the episode from mythbusters where they amplified every cell phone frequency and it did nothing to the navigation systems. I find it hard to believe that a video camera will throw off the navigation in an airplane. Think of all the frequencies that are around us right now. Think of all the people on airplanes that don't turn off their phones or electronics. Do ALL of you turn off your phones every time you step onto the plane? The only thing that could be affected would be the magnetic compass...who uses that until *something* hits the fan? (unless you have a regular DG).
If the bad guys just had to turn on their phone or video camera during TO/Landing, we'd be in trouble.
If the bad guys just had to turn on their phone or video camera during TO/Landing, we'd be in trouble.
Also an analog cell phone (still used in some less-populated areas of the US) in the back seat row will set off the cargo smoke detector in a CRJ 200...that's an automatic blow the bottles and land at nearest suitable...$$$$$$$
#42
A lot has changed since those regs were written. Ever notice how they mention specific devices? You can't use a phone but an electric shaver is ok. When I turn on my electric shaver at home it makes the TV fuzzy. Go figure.
I've been told that phones aren't allowed for a couple reason. I haven't had them confirmed. One was that the older analog phones ran on a freq. close enough to cause interference with the ILS. The second reason was that the towers used for cell phones can only handle X amount of operations per second. When in an aircraft and using a phone your phone hits more than one tower. That increases the amount of operations each tower is doing. It also made it hard to be billed by companies where roaming charges applied everywhere. It wasn't uncommon to drive 15 miles and all the sudden be roaming. Now of course these aren't issues but with the FAA it seems that once something is on paper it's pretty much impossible to get rid of it.
I've been told that phones aren't allowed for a couple reason. I haven't had them confirmed. One was that the older analog phones ran on a freq. close enough to cause interference with the ILS. The second reason was that the towers used for cell phones can only handle X amount of operations per second. When in an aircraft and using a phone your phone hits more than one tower. That increases the amount of operations each tower is doing. It also made it hard to be billed by companies where roaming charges applied everywhere. It wasn't uncommon to drive 15 miles and all the sudden be roaming. Now of course these aren't issues but with the FAA it seems that once something is on paper it's pretty much impossible to get rid of it.
#43
Honestly, if you're dumb enough to post a video you took below 10,000ft on Myspace, Youtube, etc. and have something to identify who you are ... you deserve to get caught. I don't wish it on anyone, but if you're going to take a video (which we all do at some point or another), just be smart about it
There's a ton of great video to be taken and shared!
There's a ton of great video to be taken and shared!
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#45
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Honestly, if you're dumb enough to post a video you took below 10,000ft on Myspace, Youtube, etc. and have something to identify who you are ... you deserve to get caught. I don't wish it on anyone, but if you're going to take a video (which we all do at some point or another), just be smart about it
There's a ton of great video to be taken and shared!
There's a ton of great video to be taken and shared!
#46
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but is the FAA saying that all videos taken by pilots or jumpseaters are against the rules? So all of the thousands of videos on YouTube of takeoffs and landings, whether it be in a CRJ-200 or an A340 or a B747, are not permissable? I guess I don't understand how it's wrong for a pilot in the jumpseat to video tape another pilot flying an approach. If I were an airline pilot, I would love to have a video that shows the professional environment everyone operates under.
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#49
If I remember correctly, they did find that a cell phone could cause severe interference to a VOR receiver if the electrical shielding on the wires connected to the VOR receiver had been removed or broken. It is perfectly plausible (in Mythbusters terms) to assume that if the shielding on the wiring had been broken, a cell phone could cause problems. I'm not saying it's likely, but plausible... maybe.
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