Originally Posted by downinthegroove

This attitude coupled with inept leadership is why civilian flying can be horrible.

Originally Posted by 1900luxuryliner

Lakes- Year 1: $16, Year 2: $29 (upgrade), Year 3: $30 (2 types and check airman possible), Year 4: Probation pay at large jet operator

RJ operator- Year 1: $23, Year 2: $30, Year 3: $34, Year 4: $36, Year 5: $65 (upgrade)

Originally Posted by downinthegroove

For one, there is no movement at the Legacy's so at the worst we will both be FO's.

Hey, maybe you will be my dad's FO. He only has 13 years until retirement at a Legacy.

Originally Posted by ovrtake92

It was Brewmasters sister the sandwich artist...blame her!

Originally Posted by moonship

Well as for productive conversation Sapd: I got hired with 950/110 and upgraded in 7 months and have about 2300 TT 750 TPIC.

Why is it that so many people who DO NOT work here or have old second hand information choose to post about GLA like you are in the know? Notice that the people ripping on this place do not work here. Yes I too have my moments where I like to ***** about something QOL here but as a whole I and happy with the choice to come here (just like the my friends who have been hired directly from lakes to Delta, NWA, NJA, Alligent, Southwest (one just last week), corporate, ect...). I am not saying this is the only place to get hired from or saying that Lakes is whats right for everyone, not at all. However, a two to three year stay at Lakes accelerates a pilot to the next step (the career job) and as mentioned in previous posts the pay issues spread out over the long term more than make this time just fine with me. It is true that some have chosen to lateral out of here to another regional but the implication that this is a required step of even close to the norm is simply false. I am not arguing rather just putting the information out there as the whole point of this thread is for people seeking information while making the decsion whether or not to try to work here.

To clear up soem misconceptions that have not yet been addressed on this thread. It is correct that with ATP min's and 300 in type you can bid upgrade and will likely get it the next month. We do not fly around all day on autopilot in the Beech as we do not have one, no GPS either (we are /a). True there is no cancelation pay so if you do hit a rough spot with some canceled flights it sucks however I flew 116 hours in October (we are 135 duty time rules) so I don't mind an occaional cancelation! The implication about reserve hell was in reference to CA's with low senority I believe and can say that the returning CA's who are furloughed from other airlines and back in the left seat at Lakes have been flying pleanty. STL was a junior base and there were about 12 displaced out there for a month or two before being able to bid Denver however that is NO LONGER THE CASE. That was about 6 months ago and now the STL base is either TDY MKE or DEN but there are no STL lines right now with no signs of any displacements anytime soon so you will hold Denver as a new hire.

Finally I too would like to speak to the bring the industry down comments. I fly 19 seat airplanes for 19 seat pay. I am not going to rip on your choice because that is right for you but don't act like you are a hero for "not lowering the bar" when reffering to Lakers. The only ones who should be ripping on Lakes are current and ex-lakers! Once a laker always a laker!

Originally Posted by Spad

Great that you have had no furloughs. Wish we could all say that.

Originally Posted by moonship

I fly 19 seat airplanes for 19 seat pay.