So can anyone tell me where all of the furloughed "Delta" pilots are going to go once the fleets start merging and Delta starts parking DC-9s in the desert? Regardless of the parameters of the flowthrough agreement, these guys and gals are going to end up at Mesaba and Compass, leaving the bottom feeders of these companies out on the streets.

Oh, and as has been mentioned in the other thread, Comair will just widdle away to nothing! Sooner rather than later!

So... who said Delta is going to park the DC-9s after the SOC?

Kind of funny and ignorant. NWA doesn't meet DALs staffing requirements. On top of that they are retiring pilots at a very aggressive rate. They are going to keep the 9's around they say for a few more years so there are not (most likely) going to furlough. Quite the opposite, more rumor, DAL is going to be hiring here soon.

All rumor but more well founded than some garbage.

I can't remember the exact wording in ours either and I'm too tired to look it up but if my memory serves me correct I think it is no more than 20 per month from CP and no more than 25% of the seniority list in any 12 rolling months.
And then the other part everyone likes to argue about of course is the no more than 90% of the CP seats rsv'd for flowbacks and of course the turning down the flowthrough locks your seniority above any flowbacks.....Thats most of it as I recall.

I read a newsletter from the union saying the first 12 pilots are now eligible for flowthrough to NWA/DAL....don't know if that includes the 3 flowbacks we still have or not though.

Here's to this whole thing working out this time around.

Wow. First, there is a no-furlough clause in place at Delta. Second, Delta plans to hire in 2009 as early as spring. Stop eating paint chips.

Someone way back hit it on the head when they said most flow through agreements are biased to the mainline. With the exception of the language Mesaba has (and good luck defending THAT if DAL furloughs), in most cases, more flow down than up. In most cases, flow throughs just provide a relief valve for junior mainline pilots.

When I was an MEC rep at ASA (~2004), the idea of a flow through/flow back with us was floated by the DAL MEC. We were unanimously against it for the above reasons, and I'm sure the ASA MEC continues to be.

Preferential hiring... good. Flow through... bad.

Just asking a question, not trying to stir the pot.

Good luck to everyone. This next year will be very interesting.

I just read through a copy of the Delta/NWA JWPA and there is nothing in there stating that, which is sort of good news.

What exactly do you mean with your "good luck defending THAT"? Our language is clear and exact. Only the amount who have flowed up from Mesaba may flow back. No more. Thanks for wishing us luck, though.

The language in the LCBA requires the subsidiaries to give preferential interviews of furloughees at the DCI carriers... not preferential hiring, not flowup/back. Just preferential interview to any furloughees.

Not worth the paper it's written on.