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btwissel 11-14-2008 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by resetjet (Post 498923)
Please excuse my ignorance (sarcasm not intended) but how many codeshares does Mesa Group operate?

2, not counting the Freedom stuff.

S5 has codeshares, and has 2 "caspers" as we call them, plus we can share the Repiblic Airways paint scheme planes as needed.

resetjet 11-14-2008 04:57 PM

This may be OT, does anyone know if Wells Fargo owns a lot of DCI aircraft?

H46Bubba 11-14-2008 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by resetjet (Post 498926)
This may be OT, does anyone know if Wells Fargo owns a lot of DCI aircraft?

I know Comair, ASA and SkyWest have a bunch of their leases with Wells Fargo. Mesa also has a bunch of leases with Wells Fargo. They seem to be the number one company to get aircraft lease from.

resetjet 11-14-2008 05:06 PM

Thanks, I was under the impression that Delta/DCI owned some of their aircraft or leased directly from the manufacturer. I guess it makes sense though, my paycheck at EV comes from Wells Fargo!

DeltaPaySoon 11-14-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 498898)
Mesa claimed in the original injunction case that if delta pulled the ERJ's and didn't pay them until the lawsuit was heard they would be forced to file bankruptcy. Thus not being able to actually make it to court.

The judge is not going to consider JO's bancruptcy any point of emphasis on whether to uphold an injunction. It had to be based on fact of argument prudent to the injunction (ie. Mesa can't perform as per the contract. Delta says it is Mesa's fault, Mesa says it's Delta's fault). Other business dealings or the hint of bancruptcy would not be a relevant fact for an injunction hearing.

I'm not saying you're wrong but I think that this point would not be given as much weight in an injunction hearing as has been passed around. That's not the judges role at that point. That issue would be more prudent in a trial for breech of contract.

H46Bubba 11-14-2008 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by resetjet (Post 498931)
Thanks, I was under the impression that Delta/DCI owned some of their aircraft or leased directly from the manufacturer. I guess it makes sense though, my paycheck at EV comes from Wells Fargo!

There are still aircraft owned outright. I know at Comair we own 14 CRJ-100's and we also own 15 CRJ-700's. Our 13 CRJ-900's are leased direclty with Bombardier. Mesa owns all their -900's minus the Freedom -900's, some -700's and some -200's.

Copperhed51 11-15-2008 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by milky (Post 498911)
And the oldtimers complain that these young guys are uneducated and lack common sense. Did you still have your Ipod in your ear, or did you pull the ear bud out?

One ear bud firmly in place, one pulled out. Seriously though, you guys need to get over yourselves. I was offered jobs at mesa and tsa and had the goatee during the interview. I'll shave it in future interviews just to be safe, but not hiring somebody because of their choice in facial hair is beyond retarded. Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.

Purpleanga 11-15-2008 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 499071)
One ear bud firmly in place, one pulled out. Seriously though, you guys need to get over yourselves. I was offered jobs at mesa and tsa and had the goatee during the interview. I'll shave it in future interviews just to be safe, but not hiring somebody because of their choice in facial hair is beyond retarded. Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.

That sucks.. that must have been awkward. I'm surprised you got away with it at Mesa and especially at TSA, I remember they were pretty anal about our appearance. Hey if all else fails you can apply to Mesa again when they start hiring.

gtechpilot 11-15-2008 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Copperhed51 (Post 499071)
One ear bud firmly in place, one pulled out. Seriously though, you guys need to get over yourselves. I was offered jobs at mesa and tsa and had the goatee during the interview. I'll shave it in future interviews just to be safe, but not hiring somebody because of their choice in facial hair is beyond retarded. Truly though, I only half wanted the job and had skipped my interview there a couple weeks prior so I suppose I probably wasn't trying very hard to impress them.

While true that it should not matter, you should have known going in that it would be an issue. You literally went into the interview looking to pick a fight. I had a full beard before my last interview and, from working in the private sector I can say with confidence that the o2 mask fits just fine if you keep it trimmed. Regardless, I knew if I wanted the job I needed to shave for my interview. Nobody is thinking too highly of themselves here, just pointing out the facts of life.

Ski Patrol 11-15-2008 07:11 AM

I know everyone would like to see OJ out of his current position of tyranny. (myself included) But with the way this ridiculous industry works, if he lost his current job he would probably get promoted to a legacy carrier. Seems like this industry is in the recycling biz for CEO's who make airlines go bankrupt.


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