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Old 12-01-2008 | 05:07 PM
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The BIG deal is that in a highly standardized industry the sanctioning body, when it comes to "safety", TSA, has become the poster child of chaos and unaccountability.
Listen dude, I'm not trying to start an argument here. However, it is my understanding that the passport check is a company policy and not a TSA requirement. I say this because I used to be a gate agent servicing two airlines at one counter. Airline A required the passport to be checked, while airline B did not. I was never informed of any TSA requirements to check a passport, and I was a supervisor. As a matter of fact, for some codeshare partners a CASS check wasn't even required. You sound like you have some form of entitlement to the jumpseat. If you're jumpseating on an offline carrier, you should just be happy to have a ride, regardless of the company policy on passport checks.

I totally agree that a "what's the big deal" attitude is not a good one to take when it comes to important issues or QOL infringements, but to get so worked up just because a gate agent asks to see a passport so you can ride on their airline for free doesn't seem like a big deal to me. It's nothing against you, just my personal opinion.
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Old 12-01-2008 | 06:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's Company as well...Southwest will always require a passport for the actual, but I've never heard of them requiring it for a passenger seat.

FYI, they also will not allow you down to even speak with the crew...beware!
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Old 12-02-2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboFan
Listen dude, I'm not trying to start an argument here. However, it is my understanding that the passport check is a company policy and not a TSA requirement. I say this because I used to be a gate agent servicing two airlines at one counter. Airline A required the passport to be checked, while airline B did not. I was never informed of any TSA requirements to check a passport, and I was a supervisor. As a matter of fact, for some codeshare partners a CASS check wasn't even required. You sound like you have some form of entitlement to the jumpseat. If you're jumpseating on an offline carrier, you should just be happy to have a ride, regardless of the company policy on passport checks.

I totally agree that a "what's the big deal" attitude is not a good one to take when it comes to important issues or QOL infringements, but to get so worked up just because a gate agent asks to see a passport so you can ride on their airline for free doesn't seem like a big deal to me. It's nothing against you, just my personal opinion.
Its a TSA policy, some companies may have adopted it as their own but it was originally mandated as a TSA policy.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
Is Passport required for CASS verification or not.
Simply put yes it is. Whether someone asks for it or not is one thing. As far as CASS is concerned your passport # is listed on the screen and to join CASS that information has to be given. Never travel without it. I'd say about 80%-90% of the time I jumpseat I'm asked for it. I JS mostly on SWA.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
I'm pretty sure it's Company as well...Southwest will always require a passport for the actual, but I've never heard of them requiring it for a passenger seat.

FYI, they also will not allow you down to even speak with the crew...beware!
They don't require it to sit cabin. They will allow you down to talk to the crew depending on where you're at. They are almost as bad as the TSA about telling you how things are done. In HOU they make sure you know you go down before everyone else. They want you to board first and find room for your bags too. In STL if you ask if you should preboard they get on your case letting you know you come last and then tell you how it's like that everywhere. Each gate agent tells you the previous one wasn't doing it right.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A passport is required if the airline is not 100% compatable with picture displays. A lot of airlines still have green tubes and some are restricted from changes by contracts at some airports.
This is the correct answer. However, to the chagrin of those above who are bashing the TSA and standardization, the issue is the individual CSA training.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
i love how every thread has to turn into an argument. ladies and gentlemen the guy is just asking a question. no need to be lecturing him or getting the last word in.
I agree. Simple question, simple answer. So far we know that Delta and Southwest are two that almost always requires a Passport. I have done the JS thing on Horizon several times and about 50% of the time I get asked for mine. Just always have it with you. Now if you want to argue and change the industry on an issue...lets talk about pay and QOL.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
Its a TSA policy, some companies may have adopted it as their own but it was originally mandated as a TSA policy.
Source?

Why are to so adamant that it is a TSA policy? It's not. Policy is policy and I think we all know how much the TSA likes enforcing their policies. If this was TSA policy airlines would be getting fined left and right for non-compliance. As I said earlier, I was a supervisor at an airport for two airlines before I became a pilot. Trust me, TSA policy is drilled into your head on a daily basis because of the fear of fines, etc. I can speak from quite a bit of experience when I say that I am almost 100% certain this is not a TSA requirement as one of the airlines had it published right in their training material that a passport was not required, while the other airline did require a passport.

I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative. I'm just curious why you seem so sure of your answer when I have quite a great deal of experience in this area and know it to be wrong.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 10:33 AM
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It has nothing to do with Pictures. If you need to ride in the cockpit of a carrier (other than your own) you need the passport. If you ride in the cabin, you do not need it. Some agents are not aware of this. I forgot mine once and the agent (UA) was not going to let me jump (cabin) so I asked for the supervisor, and she backed me up. Cockpit=passport.
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Old 12-02-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Jumpeseated on United and Southwest recently (neither I work for) and both required passport verification. The carrier I fly for just seem to look at the badge and call it good.
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