Online Degrees and Airline Interviews.
12-06-2008, 11:38 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by TheDashRocks
. Would I pay $500 for an accredited degree based on life experience and spend 2000 hours on something else? You bet!
Here is a description of the accreditation for the International Accreditation Agency for Online Universities which is the body that deemed Belford as "accredited."
The International Accreditation Agency for Online Universities (IAAOU) is a self-styled "accreditation" board based in the United States. It has no status with the United States Department of Education (USDE) or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA).[1] Without USDE and CHEA recognition, its "accreditations" are essentially meaningless.[2]
The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board has indicated that Rochville University and Belford University, and the agencies from which they claim accreditation, "appear to be operated by the same people
The point is you dismiss those who spent too much money on a university degree and we should have gone the easy way and just bought one. Thos of us with REAL degrees worked hard for these degrees and do not deserve to have them compared with this joke of a "university" or "experience degree."
12-06-2008, 02:37 PM
#53
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I always wanted a real degree but never had what it takes to study useless crap. Nor was I ever able to be accepted into any school based on my very poor grades. But give me something specific and goal oriented to study and I'll pass with no proble. Example, I never failed an aviation exam or a checkride and did excellent in Airline training. So I guess If you would take away, Art, literature, Math, Music and English and history and just let me take the classes I like, I would be in a real colege in a hartbeat. But If I really suck at the above mentioned subjects, I don't think that it makes me a worse of a pilot then someone that knows something about literature and History.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
12-06-2008, 03:34 PM
#54
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[quote=The Juice;512945]I can dump in a box and mark it accredited if you want. Who is doing the accreditation?
Why not mark it, "My Life So Far, by the Juice"?
To be more precise, I would spend $500 if it would get me a legitimate, recognized degree and spend 2000 hours on something else.
The Dash Whisperer
Why not mark it, "My Life So Far, by the Juice"?
To be more precise, I would spend $500 if it would get me a legitimate, recognized degree and spend 2000 hours on something else.
The Dash Whisperer
12-06-2008, 03:35 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
I'm sorry that you got furloughed. It sucks...but please...please...have some respect for yourself and your profession. Go work at Wal-Mart until you get recalled...wait tables...do anything, but allow that scumbag organization continue to operate...which is what every pilot that goes there, just for "a little while" is doing.
12-06-2008, 03:43 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
I always wanted a real degree but never had what it takes to study useless crap. Nor was I ever able to be accepted into any school based on my very poor grades. But give me something specific and goal oriented to study and I'll pass with no proble. Example, I never failed an aviation exam or a checkride and did excellent in Airline training. So I guess If you would take away, Art, literature, Math, Music and English and history and just let me take the classes I like, I would be in a real colege in a hartbeat. But If I really suck at the above mentioned subjects, I don't think that it makes me a worse of a pilot then someone that knows something about literature and History.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
So what are you going to do if you ever lose your medical and can't fly? Kill yourself? Afterall, what would be the point of life if you couldn't climb into a shiny jet? Grow up.
12-06-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboFan
Besides without going to college where are you going to learn the official rules for beer pong, or how to properly binge drink the night before a final, or how to beat "Through the Fire and Flames" in expert on Guitar Hero?
-*****es blow (can try to blow the ball out of a cup which it is ringing)
-if you bounce it in the other team drinks that cup +1 of their choice
-you can slap a bounced ball
-if the ball goes in you drink it no questions
-stupid rules (if you knock it in your own cup you drink the cup +1)
-if both people make it in they get to re-shoot
-no re-using beer from previous games
-loser drink the winners remaining beer
-elbow rule (throwers elbow cant go past their edge of the table)
-if you are able to come back to tie then you go to a three cups each side overtime
-trash talking is encouraged as well as any distractions you can think up
-most importantly whoever owns the house makes or can amend any rule
we didnt have guitar hero when i went through but i know beer pong. any more rules that i missed?
12-06-2008, 04:41 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by TheDashRocks
I would like to keep the option of going to a major airline open. Therefore I will have to get busy and earn a degree. I will spend about 2000 hours on the effort. I will try to get the most I can out of the experience. Education is never a waste. I can think of many subjects that I would love to earn a degree in, just for the joy of it. However I do not have unlimited time or resources. I choose to spend time and money on a degree because I feel that it is necessary to further my career. Would I pay $500 for an accredited degree based on life experience and spend 2000 hours on something else? You bet!
Not everyone holding a degree worked his or her way through college by the sweat of their brow. There are plenty of George W. Bushes that got into great schools because of Daddy's name and money, then drank and snorted their way to a degree while majoring in lap dance appreciation.
The Dash Whisperer
Not everyone holding a degree worked his or her way through college by the sweat of their brow. There are plenty of George W. Bushes that got into great schools because of Daddy's name and money, then drank and snorted their way to a degree while majoring in lap dance appreciation.
The Dash Whisperer
College is not just the classroom work that makes it beneficial and that fact is lost on many people. Every college grad had to take a couple of useless courses but trying to label the whole higher education experience as a waste of time is ridiculous.
Just the fact that you dealt with the bureaucracy and the complete non-sense that is college administration, scheduling, and meeting course requirements is a badge of honor. College in its simplest form tests your ability to accomplish a goal.
12-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
I always wanted a real degree but never had what it takes to study useless crap. Nor was I ever able to be accepted into any school based on my very poor grades. But give me something specific and goal oriented to study and I'll pass with no proble. Example, I never failed an aviation exam or a checkride and did excellent in Airline training. So I guess If you would take away, Art, literature, Math, Music and English and history and just let me take the classes I like, I would be in a real colege in a hartbeat. But If I really suck at the above mentioned subjects, I don't think that it makes me a worse of a pilot then someone that knows something about literature and History.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
Bottom line I think you should be judged by skills required in your proffession and not by some useless Junk that you flunked in High School and that you neve ever need in the real world. And Just to set the record straight, I am a furloghed FO from XJET, been there a year and a half. I jsut want a degree to put on my resume and was seeking advise. I didn't say I was actually getting one of those scam degrees. And as far as GoJet I was gonna go there for about a year, untill XJET recalls, since they don't require you to resign seniority.
This just pulls down the profession. Even this post reads like a 4th grader wrote it.
Here, let me go get my wife and family right before their trip and tell them that their lives will be in the hands of the guy who wrote this post, this way.
"Bon voyage, honey"
NOT!!!
Anybody can pump a yoke, buddy. Its called "professional" pilot. You ought to try to convey yourself in that light if you view yourself as one.
Also, if you want a degree on your resume, get a real degree. Otherwise, your cheating yourself and everyone who hires you on a false pretense. Its called Karma. Eventually, you'll get burned.
Last edited by bryris; 12-06-2008 at 06:40 PM.
12-07-2008, 02:43 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
When you do graduate from college would you embrace a guy sitting next to you in an interview at a major with his $500 "education" as a colleague or scum? He thinks an education is useless and a waste of precious time.
I would not judge him based only on whether or not he has a degree. He might have all kinds of other qualifying experience. I would assume he meets the airline's flight experience requirements, meaning that someone trusted him to command a turbine aircraft, probably with passengers aboard.
I just do not think a degree is the end-all-be-all and I do not think it is the only indicator of the ability to become a major airline pilot.
Just the fact that you dealt with the bureaucracy and the complete non-sense that is college administration, scheduling, and meeting course requirements is a badge of honor. College in its simplest form tests your ability to accomplish a goal.
I would not judge him based only on whether or not he has a degree. He might have all kinds of other qualifying experience. I would assume he meets the airline's flight experience requirements, meaning that someone trusted him to command a turbine aircraft, probably with passengers aboard.
I just do not think a degree is the end-all-be-all and I do not think it is the only indicator of the ability to become a major airline pilot.
Just the fact that you dealt with the bureaucracy and the complete non-sense that is college administration, scheduling, and meeting course requirements is a badge of honor. College in its simplest form tests your ability to accomplish a goal.
Whose badge of honor shines brightest? The slacker who goes to the college his folks chose, cramming 4 years of college into 10, while living in the condo they bought for him? The poor girl growing up in a single parent home who joins the army, fights in Iraq, uses her GI Bill benefits to pursue a degree in physical therapy while working nights at Walgreens?
The Dash Whisperer
