:eek:Re: the unopened can.... be careful with that as well. I had a FA brag that she shook up the can because the FO was being annoying to both her and the CA. So when he opened it it sprayed all over his uniform.

That is because your fiance has control over you...WHIP!!!

haha, its the truth:o

Ever watched a 5'2" 95 pound FA try to open the main cabin door on the CRJ from the ground? I'm 5'7" and it's a pain in the ass to get the leverage with your hand stretched above your head. It would be immensely tougher if I were 5" shorter and 40 pounds lighter. We've got some FAs that could probably hang from the door handle without the door budging.

As long as they can open the door from the inside then they can do their job. If they are outside the aircraft then there isn't anyone onboard for them to evacuate.

Wow... I don't know about anyone else but I've had many (many) FAs smarter then my FO and me hands down! They have many reasons why they chose their proffesion.....
I like to see who runs up to the front desk to fill stuff out. I always let the FA decide the room first (unless male) and if FO is female then she gets to decied ... I'll take the last room left... If they don't mind filling it out for others than all good! Lives to short to sweat the small stuff... I also buy a meal at least once a month for all my crew and a night of drinks!!
I've had some great captains on my way up and bottom line is when you make Capt pass it on...!

Despite your eloquent reasoning I find it hard to believe. :rolleyes:

Its amazing some of you are paid to operate heavy machinery with living people inside.

Honestly, my comment was not intended to be cruel or mean. Quite simply, everyone has their place and a certain job to do. I always do my best to be courteous and respectful of everyone. However, when people try to get out of line and pretend to be something that they are not, then reality might need to be delivered crisply.

He's the "General Lee" of APC :D

I would be careful with this. A flight attendant I was chatting with was proud for slipping eye drops into a drink he gave to a captain he disliked (on another trip I wasn't part of).

The captain ended up calling in sick on that trip.

By the way, I thought this was crap and told him so.

That's not cool at all. I think that's something along the lines of a felony, if the cat isn't lying...definitely already violates the regs alone. I can't tell you how I'd handle that if I was on the receiving end.

Thats why I NEVER get a cup or ice when I ask for a drink. I will just wipe the can down myself and take the risk of whatever diseases it picked up in EWR while in the care of chelsey catering.

That is actually pretty dangerous. Although for most it will just cause you to puke your guts out for a day or so, it can with the right person or in a strong enough concentration...Kill you. Usually won't get that far but it can cause difficulty breathing, raise and lower your blood pressure and lower your body temperature.

Eye drops? Isn't it essentially saline solution.... saline solution can't kill you, can it?:confused:

Visine is more than Saline....a couple of drops of Visine will leave you on the toilet for the better part of a day.

Huh... well you learn something new every day. Doesn't really make it sound too pleasant for the eye either though.

Sorry about the thread derailment.... now back to the regularly scheduled being Po'd about ..... well something.

Doing this to an on-duty flight crew member sounds like a federal felony, probably falls under some terrorism statute. I think you could get real prison time for this. I would actually turn the guy in.

Have you guys ever watched what a FA goes through. Picking up trash and making nice to a pax that was rude to her earlier. They put up with alot of crap back there while we try to stay awake in the front. Sure they make less have less of an education and are lower in rank.. what ever! THey are still people. And they work harder.

Is it really that big of a deal to cross the belts if you have time? I do it and it has really paid off for me. Full body naked rub down at the hotels. Sitting on my lap when the CA goes to the LAV...topless. The CA that is.:o

Now that there, folks, is an Aviator LoL

I agree. Felony charges are definately in the realm here.

This person needs to be turned in.

I had a FA tell me to walk back to the plane we just swapped from (about 5 gates down) and get some catering stuff because SHE didn't have enough time to call catering and we were running late already. I hadn't even done a preflight or any of my own duties. Before I had a chance to reply, the captain said something to the effect of "Its not the FO's job to do your job. Call catering yourself."

Remember that there are many FA's who believe that if they stayed at ground school a few weeks longer that they could have been pilots too.

Just leave her with the plane and say "Here are the battery switches, don't forget to turn them off when you're finished, goodnight, see you tomorrow..........!"

I totally agree that FAs sometimes work hard and get treated like crap. That does NOT give them license to pass it on. We should treat them with respect and help them out. But if they are rude and disrespectful, they need to be reminded of proper roles.

As for the IDIOT that put EYE DROPS in a pilot's drink - they clearly have mental problems and should be removed from duty. It is STUPID to incapacitate a PILOT. I hope you will have the guts to report that person.

You are right. I just never had a rude-to-me FA. I suppose that if I did I would not help them...or ask for a drink.

"If you assume they always spit in your drink, then it is not that bad."

There are no 95lb FA's where I work. Most of them weigh significantly more than I do.

Last edited by BlueMoon : 12-06-2008 at 05:35 PM. Reason: grammer

lol, next time when you check your "'grammer" double check you speeling too... :D Sorry, thought this was funny and couldn't resist...

Ah hell, thats what I get for trying to fix my post.

I'm sorry dude, like I said I thought it was funny, didn't mean to offend you... ;)

I'm crying in my beer!

Coming from a guy that spells Aviator "AV8OR" LoL :p

Tru dat... :D

I'll never forget the day I was flying with a new hire FO and talking about his training. Flight attendant listening in over our shoulders. FO says something like "those were the hardest 3 weeks of my life." FA then perks up and says "I should have stayed in school 1 week longer to be a pilot." And she was dead serious.

We both lost whatever drinks we had in our mouths at the time...

Gee. Never heard of that original story before.:rolleyes:

When I was still at AirTran my captain and I heard a similar story from our lead flight attendant - her roommate (another FA) was dating one of our pilots and they both went through their respective new-hire training at about the same time. She said it was very unfair pilots made that much more and pointed out that her friend's boyfriend (the pilot) was in training only a few weeks longer than her FA buddy... :eek:

When the captain tried to explain that a new-hire pilot has already been a pilot for a while at his/her previous airline, etc, etc. she interrupted by saying it all boiled down to pilots being rich to begin with because if she had the money she'd have gone to a flight school too!

I replied by saying my entire flight training was paid with the help of student loans and was still paying them off but she just rolled her eyes and walked away - we could tell she did not believe us...

By the way, she was venting to us because the previous crew had the audacity of buying their own food without asking the FAs if they wanted anything... I'd always ask our FAs if they wanted me to to get them some delicious fast food but I got a feeling this particular FA expected the previous crew to actually pay for her food since "they made so much more..."

This was the only time I ran into someone like that while at AT - other crews were top-notch...

maybe if you learned how to read you would see I was quoting someone else and found it humorous that it happened to me to, because i thought it was funny....lighten up Francis I'm sure you've experienced things and wrote about them on here which the rest of us have already experienced.:rolleyes:

Plus, 80% of the people that post in this forum have probably been in the industry less than 2 years and haven't experienced that yet. I didn't realize I would have Chuck Yeager critiquing my posts.

i didn't fly at all one month on reserve...then i got a trip the last week...i was definitely rusty and as it is i suck at flying already...

i had like 2 or 3 pretty crappy landings...and the CA was joking around about how bad they were...and she joined in except that she was serious and wouldn't drop it...finally i started getting the landings back and she came up and made the comment...see you're finally getting the hang of it..you'll get there...like her sincerity meant something to me...

touchdown zone and center line that's all the matters to me anymore b/c there's nothing worse than wet feet...

Just put the company headsets back when you're done using your own.

Leave the pedals and seat where they were.... not all the way down on the floor and all the way forward.... what worked well for you will probably be fairly close to what will work for the next guy/gal. The few exceptions to the rule will need to change them anyway regardless.

and... stop putting 1200 in the transponder, espeically at DCA. Yes, the subsequent crew is responsible to set the right code... but if they miss it, it's much better to be on the wrong code, then to be on 1200.

On the FA thing... they have a job to do, it isn't the easiest job in the world, and neither is ours. Will I help them if it fits into my time, yep... especially on the go to the hotel flight... the sooner we're off and out, the sooner I get to bed. That being said, if I get the feeling that the FA is expecting me to do their job instoead of just "helping out"... then he/she can catch up with me at the hotel van.

Dump your trash when leaving the airplane; that includes the multiple copies of People, Stuff and the WSJ.... ok, you can leave the WSJ... But, please take the food remnants with you or at least brush the crumbs off the seat.

end rant

Had something similar happen. Our FA poked her head up at some point after the flight and told me that she could always tell when I was flying (me being the FO). "Why's that?" I ask. "Oh because your landings aren't very good." Huh??

So, I responded with "Oh, so which one of mine didn't you like?"
"The last one into CLE could have been better."
"Oh really, because that was the Captain's leg." (And it was!)

At that point the CA turned around and gave her a piece of his mind. Way to alienate yourself from both crewmembers in one fell swoop! :D

Why would an airline crew ever want to put in the 1200 code? Not many scheduled airlines file VFR flight plans... What am I missing here? :confused:

Some do this to "set something unusual on the box to remind the next crew not to forget setting it" also see "0000" a lot. Some see this as a nice gesture, or annoying, hey whatever floats your boat...