ERJ or CRJ?
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Originally Posted by spitfire1500
I've been on the ERJ awhile and the only two big gripes I have, first it is loud as hell inside and second the radar is garbage.
The service ceiling of 370 and VMO of 320 or Mach .78 were established to keep the plane way inside its envelope since Embraer has pushed the plane as an easy turboprop to jet transition plane. Embraer has flown the plane outside these limitations.
One thing Bombardier has done that I can't understand with the newer CRJ 700 and 900's is that they have put the FADECS out in the engine cowling area... correct me if I am wrong...Embraer put them in an avionics compartment in the rear of the plane which I think if there is a cat. fail in the eng I want them away from it.
The service ceiling of 370 and VMO of 320 or Mach .78 were established to keep the plane way inside its envelope since Embraer has pushed the plane as an easy turboprop to jet transition plane. Embraer has flown the plane outside these limitations.
One thing Bombardier has done that I can't understand with the newer CRJ 700 and 900's is that they have put the FADECS out in the engine cowling area... correct me if I am wrong...Embraer put them in an avionics compartment in the rear of the plane which I think if there is a cat. fail in the eng I want them away from it.
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I think the ERJ has a more quiet cabin than the CRJ. (Not that this matters, unless your deadheading or something) But the CRJ was alot louder in back I feel. Although when we became airborne the front row of the ERJ was very loud. But it doesn't sound like an engine, it just sounds like wind that is very loud. I'm Not sure how to discribe it. I guess there is just something about the ERJ that I like more.
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Having flown both, I really enjoy the ERJ. Climb performance is much better than the CRJ and the ERJ is very user friendly! Both of these planes are very nice though and a treat to fly! Hey, could someone tell me why it says "new hire" under my name? how can I change this? I am new to the forum. thanks!
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Originally Posted by erjpilot
Having flown both, I really enjoy the ERJ. Climb performance is much better than the CRJ and the ERJ is very user friendly! Both of these planes are very nice though and a treat to fly! Hey, could someone tell me why it says "new hire" under my name? how can I change this? I am new to the forum. thanks!
Another guy summed it up best on another board when this question came up about which is a better plane to fly. It doesn't really matter, they both pay crap.
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
It doesn't really matter, they both pay crap.
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I never flew the ERJ, but the CRJ 200 is a piece of crap. It climbs like a sick dog above the mid 20s. Thinking of going to FL410? Fuhgiddaboutit! No FADEC. You have to set the power like in a turboprop. The radar isn't very good. The passengers have to be midgets to see out the window. And to top it off, it lands faster than a fricking 757.
On the other hand, I now fly the CRJ 700 and most of the problems have been fixed. Slats allow slower approach speeds and got rid of the "lawn dart" pitch attitude. Better radar with individual controls for each pilot. Much better power. You can keep 1000 fpm up into the high 30s if you plan well. I havn't been to 410, but I have seen 390. RVSM cruise speed limitation is 0.83 and sometime requires you to pull the power back. Plus there are two FAs and two lavs, so the captain and FO don't have to share.
Some problems are common to both airplanes. No VNAV (at least not at ASA). There is a lot of noise when you are faster than 320 KIAS. The coat closets are big enough for one coat, not two. The hole for the flight bags is not big enough for my nice DoJet bag. No flight deck storage for crew bags at all (although the FAs have a cubby in the galley for their bags).
On the other hand, I now fly the CRJ 700 and most of the problems have been fixed. Slats allow slower approach speeds and got rid of the "lawn dart" pitch attitude. Better radar with individual controls for each pilot. Much better power. You can keep 1000 fpm up into the high 30s if you plan well. I havn't been to 410, but I have seen 390. RVSM cruise speed limitation is 0.83 and sometime requires you to pull the power back. Plus there are two FAs and two lavs, so the captain and FO don't have to share.
Some problems are common to both airplanes. No VNAV (at least not at ASA). There is a lot of noise when you are faster than 320 KIAS. The coat closets are big enough for one coat, not two. The hole for the flight bags is not big enough for my nice DoJet bag. No flight deck storage for crew bags at all (although the FAs have a cubby in the galley for their bags).
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As far as the newer 170/190 EMB's, the MFD displays are really nice. It shows you exactly what is going on for each system pulled up. Auto-thrust and VNAV are great, as well as the Honeywell 2000. Seats still suck on the Embraer though.
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