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Mason32 12-24-2008 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by PIPErdrvr (Post 524653)
From what I've gathered, no. the only ones getting displaced are DFE and DCE. plus theyre posting vacancies in your domicile. so if anything, you'd have junior ppl coming on under you. The only way you would go from LGA to the ATR is if you proffered to displace.

wrong. If enough people senior to him decide they want to displace to LGA and he gets pushed to the bottom of the list in base and they are over the number they need, he could get displaced out.... so, he needs to have his preferences set in his *3. Would I expect it to happen, nope... unless he is number 65 in base out of the 65 FO's currently there....then the risks go up.

PIPErdrvr 12-24-2008 04:11 PM

Wait, so more pilots can be awarded a vacancy than are posted. I didn't think so. I thought once the 13 or so were filled no one else would be awarded it.

positiverate33 12-24-2008 06:53 PM

I have been through two long terms in 9 months if I get the ATR it will be my 3rd long term in a year with the company! The Admiral should just give me a mailbox! I hope I hold my seat:(

coldpilot 12-24-2008 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by positiverate33 (Post 525123)
I have been through two long terms in 9 months if I get the ATR it will be my 3rd long term in a year with the company! The Admiral should just give me a mailbox! I hope I hold my seat:(

Likewise. I just don't want to lose my seat in DFW. Commuting is going to suck!

withthatsaid182 12-25-2008 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 525030)
wrong. If enough people senior to him decide they want to displace to LGA and he gets pushed to the bottom of the list in base and they are over the number they need, he could get displaced out.... so, he needs to have his preferences set in his *3. Would I expect it to happen, nope... unless he is number 65 in base out of the 65 FO's currently there....then the risks go up.

i will be the last pilot on the base list...i'm just hoping that not that many people are dying to come to ny...i do have my 3* set up how i want...hopefully i'll stay put tho...

Mason32 12-25-2008 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by PIPErdrvr (Post 525060)
Wait, so more pilots can be awarded a vacancy than are posted. I didn't think so. I thought once the 13 or so were filled no one else would be awarded it.

It means they need 13 more than they currently have.... it does not mean the people already there are safe.... it is not simply a vacancy bid, in which case the 13 most senior people asking for LGA would get it.... it is a displacement/vacancy bid.... if they have 65 now (which they do) and they want to end up with 78.... and 100 people from other bases senior to him list LGA as there displacement preference, then he could be pushed out. Does that explain it any better? The problem here is that on a displacement, you bid and get whatever you have listed in your preferences.... base, equipment and seat. Whatever your personal seniority can hold is what you will get.

Flyby1206 12-27-2008 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by PIPErdrvr (Post 525060)
Wait, so more pilots can be awarded a vacancy than are posted. I didn't think so. I thought once the 13 or so were filled no one else would be awarded it.

This is called "backfilling." If on the vacancy bid there are no openings for OFE, but 10 OFEs chose to preference bid for LGA then that creates 10 OFE openings that could be awarded if you have them in your preferences (or displacements preferences). Sometimes youll notice on vacancy bids they say we wont backfill the first 10 OFE, 20 OCE, etc. In that case it would mean nobody would go to OFE if only 10 OFEs chose to go to LGA. If 11 OFEs went to LGA then 1 person in the company would be awarded an OFE slot. Clear as mud?

withthatsaid182 12-27-2008 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 525879)
This is called "backfilling." If on the vacancy bid there are no openings for OFE, but 10 OFEs chose to preference bid for LGA then that creates 10 OFE openings that could be awarded if you have them in your preferences (or displacements preferences). Sometimes youll notice on vacancy bids they say we wont backfill the first 10 OFE, 20 OCE, etc. In that case it would mean nobody would go to OFE if only 10 OFEs chose to go to LGA. If 11 OFEs went to LGA then 1 person in the company would be awarded an OFE slot. Clear as mud?

lol why didn't i think of that? clear as day!;)

i just don't wanna go to SJU...at least in ny the guy mugging you knows a little english and will understand "please sir i'm a poor regional FO..."

RJSD 12-27-2008 03:46 PM

I think LGA/JFK will be the most junior base since SJU/MIA got smaller after the first displacement. I would say some in ORD will be displaced by DFW guys.

Flyby1206 12-28-2008 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by RJSD (Post 526137)
I think LGA/JFK will be the most junior base since SJU/MIA got smaller after the first displacement. I would say some in ORD will be displaced by DFW guys.

Agreed! I think NYC will be the most junior base for a long time to come, especially considering the cost of living, delays, etc. Sadly, I bet this will be an ugly displacement as well and guys in ORD/DFW will feel some pain.


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