94hr lines.....

One of the MEC members said the company provided it to them.

Avoiding open time will do nothing to help the furloughees. It will only result in pilots getting extended, and the reserves getting abused.

Out contract allows ASA to withhold a predetermined percentage of open time every month. This flying WILL be covered eventually. And it it doesn't, our performance numbers tank, Delta pulls more flying, and we furlough MORE. Those of you calling for this illegal job action under the Railway Labor Act are missing the forest for the trees.

Also, those of you tossing the word "scab" around need to think twice. I feel badly for your furloughs, but you have to admit you knew this was a possibility when you hired on. You don't need to blame your fellow pilots, who are about to vote on an assessment to pay you COBRA benefits for your furlough.

1st of all I don't think ANY of the ASA furloughed guys has called anyone a "scab" the guy who said that is a Comair guy!

2nd of all, this from the same guy that caused all hell on what did you call it?? "Delta screwed ASA again....?" I can say the same about you, you knew the DCI shuffle when you joined ASA. If not, no one is making you stay. Yet you complained page after page even after we got furloughed. Almost seems like all you care about is yourself.

Last if you want to hang that COBRA donations over our heads... KEEP IT! There are plenty of other ASA pilots that are willing to help us out. I don't need your help if it has a price tag on it. I assume you are a CA and you make more then all the FO and FA and yet they are willing to help and not hang it over our heads.

You are right, the conversation here can be illegal if it is organizing a sit out on open time. (Courts found in favor of I think it was United when this was done on E-mails and public forums. The pilots/union got slammed) But it is legal for people to say what THEY intend to do and why. Don't go blindly attacking everyone to get a message across. Use some tact.

Which airplane is this on? I think the highest credited line on the 700 is around 76-77 hours.

200...................

The 200 had about 15 lines in the 90's, majority in the 80's, and still some 75 and below.

I'm sorry to see 80 good people lose their jobs, but this situation is not the typical management versus pilot group scenario. We're fat on pilots, our aircraft utilization is abysmally low and our costs will affect the job security of the entire company. If reserves are being flown over guarantee (which they aren't) and they're getting paid over-block, then avoiding open time will have 'some' affect. If the company was malicious in furloughing, as in they're running thin and wish to have some affect on negotiations (there aren't any), avoiding open time would have probably have 'some' affect. Since neither of those are the case, avoiding open time will have very little affect. Blame it on Bush, blame it on the Democrats, blame it on yourselves. Puff your chest, yell as loud as you can, do what you think helps, you can even call me a managment hack if it makes you feel better, but it does not change the situation.

Help the fourloughs, the company and yourselves by doing everything you can to minimize costs and position us for new opportunities. And hope like hell fuel costs don't go up again 'cause if they do, in this environment, more folks are going to get furloughed.

Ok, here's my question, and I don't mean disrespect to the furloughed guys, I'm a team player and I haven't had a successful open time pick up in months anyway. I'm just curious...

There obviously isn't a lot of open time out there. JP says picking up open time will not help the furloughed guys, and it makes sense. All that means is they will give the limited open time to a reserve since now we are "properly" staffed. Now if it was like Comair where they cannot staff the flights, I definitely see the point of not "helping out the company" with guys on the street. But ASA waited as long as possible to furlough and then only furloughed 80. It doesn't seem like they are trying to keep you guys out on purpose. So what will not picking up open time really do? Is it just the principle of it? If so, I see the reasoning in that. But do you really think it will bring back even 1 pilot when they can just pawn the open time onto a reserve who might flight 50 hours a month instead of 20?

...try 15 hours a month instead of 5!