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Old 01-31-2009 | 11:33 AM
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If my number comes up in the next couple years to flow to Delta, Buh-bye Mesaba, hopefully hello B73N or A320. Unfortunately CVG will probably be no more in a couple years.
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Old 01-31-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
If my number comes up in the next couple years to flow to Delta, Buh-bye Mesaba, hopefully hello B73N or A320. Unfortunately CVG will probably be no more in a couple years.
Has a regional pilot group ever received a net benefit from a flow through agreement?
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Old 01-31-2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TRS531
You're certainly right on all accounts....I'm a bottom feeder in the industry now as a semi wet CFI with virtually no students. The strong dream isn't what it used to be.....

All I want is a flying job....cargo, charter, airline, anything and there's nothing...zero. Very frustrating times indeed.

If you got a degree, try to substitute teach. It is a good way to pay the bills.
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Old 01-31-2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker
Just keep an open and objective mind...Also dont let history escape your memory. The industry WILL recover (and NO ONE knows when that will be no matter how much they want to make their opinion's seem to be the right one)
Its the overall downturn in the economy, not just the industry. That recovery is a while away...its the bigger picture that needs focusing.

All Im getting at is in the next couple of years, there will be a lot of people leaving the industry (the top retires, the bottom didnt want to hang around anymore) and the pilots slated to replace them will be much fewer than what would of happened if 65 didnt go through.

Topic: When the hiring begins...
Answer: ...there will be plenty of openings, but a lacking of pilots

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Old 01-31-2009 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
when that cycle kicks in.... many of the current CA's at regional carriers will have been a capt 3-7 years or more.... and albeit not a GREAT wage... will be making lets say.... 70k+ per year with ( depending on their personal circumstance ) perhaps a decent QOL..... how many will become lifers and stay were they are..... ??? I suspect many of the next group of regional pilots to move on to the mainline carriers to come from the bottom third of the CA's lists.... and of course any and all FO's who can meet the minimums...... what says the group?
This one of the group agrees. I know at my job, and many others that have decent (all relative) pay/work rules that was the case before this last short lived hiring cycle ended. Sure, there were a few of the guys you're talking about moving on, but the majority going to (insert legacy here) were the more mid level to junior CA's.
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Old 01-31-2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw2097
Its the overall downturn in the economy, not just the industry. That recovery is a while away...its the bigger picture that needs focusing.

All Im getting at is in the next couple of years, there will be a lot of people leaving the industry (the top retires, the bottom didnt want to hang around anymore) and the pilots slated to replace them will be much fewer than what would of happened if 65 didnt go through.

Topic: When the hiring begins...
Answer: ...there will be plenty of openings, but a lacking of pilots

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I'm waiting for the day the US will be short on pilots. Call me pessimistic but I don't think that'll ever happen. Other countries have such shortages because their aviation regs and the cost of obtaining licenses make it very prohibitive to achieve such goals. The US is very open, on the contrary.
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Old 01-31-2009 | 04:01 PM
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Don't suppose anyone has statistics on number of student pilot certificates issued over the last few years?
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Old 01-31-2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAgain
Don't suppose anyone has statistics on number of student pilot certificates issued over the last few years?

I'm guessing it has been steadily dropping off.....
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Old 01-31-2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAgain
Don't suppose anyone has statistics on number of student pilot certificates issued over the last few years?
this is the closest I've found...

Airmen Knowledge Test Statistics
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Old 01-31-2009 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BBflyer
this is the closest I've found...

Airmen Knowledge Test Statistics
Whoa! Only ONE Commercial Airship written was taken in '08??
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