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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:43 PM
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One of the recent ASA connection newsletters I saw said that the MEC and the company were looking at implementing PBS. If PBS is passed will that result in further furloughs? I've heard that a PBS system can reduce the need for up to 10% of a pilot work force. I know that ASA has the "no furlough" clause but I honestly believe that it isn't worth the piece of paper it is written on. If PBS were passed could we see 10% of the remaining workforce furloughed at ASA?
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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:53 PM
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We just went PBS at Compass. Hope you enjoy working more days and having less days off. Its like PFM for management.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
One of the recent ASA connection newsletters I saw said that the MEC and the company were looking at implementing PBS. If PBS is passed will that result in further furloughs? I've heard that a PBS system can reduce the need for up to 10% of a pilot work force. I know that ASA has the "no furlough" clause but I honestly believe that it isn't worth the piece of paper it is written on. If PBS were passed could we see 10% of the remaining workforce furloughed at ASA?

I would agree, considering they are furloughing.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 01:18 PM
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I would agree, considering they are furloughing.
It still hasn't been tested - only covers those who signed the contract on the day of. There are still ~80 who aren't covered.

PBS would still have to be voted on and the general consensus is a big NO right now.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I would agree, considering they are furloughing.
The furlough clause didn't apply to anyone who has been furloughed. I believe there are a further 40 pilots that aren't protected. I don't think anyone is truly safe though.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
The furlough clause didn't apply to anyone who has been furloughed. I believe there are a further 40 pilots that aren't protected. I don't think anyone is truly safe though.
OK, Thanks for the clarification. I forgot that I read that earlier. Let's hope that they can't break it.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 01:59 PM
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They will get a resounding NO WAY! from me. PBS only helps two kinds of people, management and the most senior 25% of the pilot group.
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Old 02-10-2009 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by resetjet
They will get a resounding NO WAY! from me. PBS only helps two kinds of people, management and the most senior 25% of the pilot group.
Thanks, I think all 80 of us on the street need all the help we can get in getting our jobs back. Hopefully we find a home for at least 10 of those -200s, maybe even all 20. It's very unlikely but you never know and I would hate to see more pilots joining us on the street in the spring.
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Old 03-08-2009 | 09:31 AM
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They will get a resounding NO WAY! from me. PBS only helps two kinds of people, management and the most senior 25% of the pilot group.
That is not the true meaning of pbs! It should be a tool for pilots and f/a to correctly bid their lines with minimal effort. Unfortunately several vendors do their pbs with a focus on company profits instead of the true meaning which is people happiness!
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