Poor us (ASA)
10-31-2008, 04:07 PM
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Poor us (ASA)
So here's an airline with a surplus of pilots mostly because of the ATR fleet going away. ASA could obviously use more airplanes of some sort, don't say ASA doesn't deserve it. Performance is up substancially from a short time ago. Delta has 900's to assign and the rumor is they give them to an airline who isn't even flying delta colored airplanes yet that is hiring because they think they're getting these planes. Sounds like ASA is going downhill bigtime.
Makes no sense to me.
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Makes no sense to me.
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10-31-2008, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
So here's an airline with a surplus of pilots mostly because of the ATR fleet going away. ASA could obviously use more airplanes of some sort, don't say ASA doesn't deserve it. Performance is up substancially from a short time ago. Delta has 900's to assign and the rumor is they give them to an airline who isn't even flying delta colored airplanes yet that is hiring because they think they're getting these planes. Sounds like ASA is going downhill bigtime.
Makes no sense to me.
Discuss...
Makes no sense to me.
Discuss...
Just remember, "deserve" has nothing to do with it as all pilots deserve better. It's simply a solid business decision that aids one group at the expense of others like every other managerial decision in this industry.
The "Good Karma" in this crazy circle of life will come knocking on ASA's door eventually at the expense of someone else.
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10-31-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
So here's an airline with a surplus of pilots mostly because of the ATR fleet going away. ASA could obviously use more airplanes of some sort, don't say ASA doesn't deserve it. Performance is up substancially from a short time ago. Delta has 900's to assign and the rumor is they give them to an airline who isn't even flying delta colored airplanes yet that is hiring because they think they're getting these planes. Sounds like ASA is going downhill bigtime.
Makes no sense to me.
Discuss...
Makes no sense to me.
Discuss...
10-31-2008, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vtbvtdk
I concur. ASA has the pilots to operate the planes now. They are experienced and would have good performance (out of ATL, no less). They have the MX for it. I think "deserve" doesn't say enough; I can't really see a reason why they shouldn't have them (except that the last offer included taking 2 -200s away for every -900. That's no good.)
10-31-2008, 06:58 PM
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I would agree on principle but really all that matters is that Delta makes money. Wholly owned or not, whoever does the best should get it. Then Delta doesn't end up fighting in court (and subsequently spending money) after contract specs are not met. If the aircraft are operated properly in the first place that never happens...
Purely my opinion. I don't claim to know the whole picture, nor do I intend to try to find out what it is. I think my head would explode.
Purely my opinion. I don't claim to know the whole picture, nor do I intend to try to find out what it is. I think my head would explode.
10-31-2008, 07:10 PM
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it makes me sick to my stomach to hear "wholly owned subsidiary" from the newbies. ugh. i hate to see asa miss out on any flying. i have always had a HUGE amount of respect for all you guys. i always thought of asa and comair as the "good ol' boys" of aviation. if the day ever comes that i'm in charge i would be more than happy to burn 'em all down and hook you guys at asa up (and of course my old stomping ground comair.) all the things we both fought for so many years is just getting killed.
10-31-2008, 07:51 PM
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I talked to one of our check airmen, and he did say we were offered the 900's, but it would involve nearly 200 pilots getting furloughed. So our CEOs said no to it. What sucks is that other people on the ground are losing their jobs. Talk about a morale buster.
10-31-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by samuraiguytn
What sucks is that other people on the ground are losing their jobs.
10-31-2008, 09:07 PM
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ASA guys if any one deserve the extra 900s flotting around you guys do... But welcome to the XJ rumor station.... I have been at 9E for 1.5 years(not long) but any and alll rumors have XJ always coming out on top!!! Good Luck I think we need it more!!!!
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