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PinnacleFO 02-27-2009 11:17 AM

Hindsight 20/20
 
There is a lot of talk about Compass being stapled to the bottom of the delta list bringing all of those pilots right up to mainline jobs. I don't know if it will happen or not but I am curious if there is anyone else out there right now who was offered a job or an interview at compass but turned it down becuase it seemed to be a big risk. Won't we all be kicking ourselves if this does happen. Sure we would be on the bottom of a huge list, but it would be a mainline list. Its just one of those things you can't predict but you can't look back on if it didnt go the way you thought it would. Compass guys I wish you the best whatever happens.

Excel 02-27-2009 11:30 AM

I wish I would have know about them initially hiring captains right off the bat, those guys are now in a great position!...

NightIP 02-27-2009 11:34 AM

I can't say I wouldn't be a bit jealous if they merged lists, but perhaps something like that could be used as an impetus for other regionals to do the same.

Lowlevel 02-27-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 568402)
There is a lot of talk about Compass being stapled to the bottom of the delta list bringing all of those pilots right up to mainline jobs. I don't know if it will happen or not but I am curious if there is anyone else out there right now who was offered a job or an interview at compass but turned it down becuase it seemed to be a big risk. Won't we all be kicking ourselves if this does happen. Sure we would be on the bottom of a huge list, but it would be a mainline list. Its just one of those things you can't predict but you can't look back on if it didnt go the way you thought it would. Compass guys I wish you the best whatever happens.

I heard this rumor. What I was wondering is, what makes Compass different than the other DAL wholly owned companies? Why are they different from Comair and Mesaba? I know some will say that their whole fleet is 76 seat Emb-175's, but both Comair and Mesaba have 76 seat a/c and Comair also has 70 seat a/c. Delta chooses who gets what aircraft, and Comair's pilot agreement actually has a pay rate for the EMB-170/175. Just because they are a start up airline, why should they get preferential treatment above the others?

JoeyMeatballs 02-27-2009 12:20 PM

because there are a lot of senior guys at COMAIR that would probably not be as joyous to be stapled onto the bottom of DAL, whereas Compass is much much smaller with a very junior pilot group

Lowlevel 02-27-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 568436)
because there are a lot of senior guys at COMAIR that would probably not be as joyous to be stapled onto the bottom of DAL, whereas Compass is much much smaller with a very junior pilot group

So, you're saying that DAL would do this, because they don't want to make the Comair and Mesaba pilots angry or disappoint them? Say it isn't so! Since when do they care about the pilots?

JoeyMeatballs 02-27-2009 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Lowlevel (Post 568442)
So, you're saying that DAL would do this, because they don't want to make the Comair and Mesaba pilots angry or disappoint them? Say it isn't so! Since when do they care about the pilots?

It would just be too much of a headache. Look DAL MANAGEMENT will do what is best for them, I don't think it makes much sense to do this from a management stand point. I think it would be a shame in one respect, we had a lot of qualified CA's here at XJT get a class date with NWA, only to have it canceled by DAL and now its like they never applied.............Now they will just accept CZ guys as their own after passing a regional interview board?

I believe DAL HR would like to have more control over who they hire, so I doubt they feel a lot of Compass guys would fit their mold of what they would like to see in a DAL uniform.....

I think all regional flying should be done by a mainline group, but its too good a deal for airline management to keep the regional world in a constant underbidding of each other for flying

ohplease! 02-27-2009 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 568402)
There is a lot of talk about Compass being stapled to the bottom of the delta list bringing all of those pilots right up to mainline jobs. I don't know if it will happen or not but I am curious if there is anyone else out there right now who was offered a job or an interview at compass but turned it down becuase it seemed to be a big risk. Won't we all be kicking ourselves if this does happen. Sure we would be on the bottom of a huge list, but it would be a mainline list. Its just one of those things you can't predict but you can't look back on if it didnt go the way you thought it would. Compass guys I wish you the best whatever happens.

Nope........

JoeyMeatballs 02-27-2009 12:31 PM

also, not everyone wants to fly for DAL/NWA

tpersuit 02-27-2009 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Lowlevel (Post 568432)
I heard this rumor. What I was wondering is, what makes Compass different than the other DAL wholly owned companies? Why are they different from Comair and Mesaba? I know some will say that their whole fleet is 76 seat Emb-175's, but both Comair and Mesaba have 76 seat a/c and Comair also has 70 seat a/c. Delta chooses who gets what aircraft, and Comair's pilot agreement actually has a pay rate for the EMB-170/175. Just because they are a start up airline, why should they get preferential treatment above the others?

For one, the hiring minimums at Compass were a lot more tough than Mesaba and Comair had. A lot tougher than most of the regionals out there.


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