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Tiger2Flying 02-27-2009 02:56 PM
This is no surprise to me.

EmbraerFlyer 02-27-2009 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 568571)
I agree, the Q400 is flown into places where I would imagine moderate ICE is the norm..........
Sure does. The Q400 had its problems, but most of it was pre-flight issue. ALT-Ctrl-Delete fixed it most of the time. If flew it for almost two years at Horizon and it was one yeck of a plane

ryan1234 02-27-2009 03:07 PM
I suppose the premise of their argument, in filing, would be that the passengers had a "right" to make it to the destination unscathed. Airplanes do crash, this isn't the first, nor will it be the last. Loss of life is always tragic, no matter the capacity, but it does happen - and last time I checked the mortality rate was still 100% although causes vary. I say, bad form from the families that are filing (at least right now). (And yes, I have lost loved ones in tragic accidents)

RAHPilot5 02-27-2009 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by EmbraerFlyer (Post 568576)
Sure does. The Q400 had its problems, but most of it was pre-flight issue. ALT-Ctrl-Delete fixed it most of the time. If flew it for almost two years at Horizon and it was one yeck of a plane
Its CTRL-ALT-Delete :D

TPROP4ever 02-27-2009 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by mooney (Post 568535)
I love it how they always manage to say "thee lawyer, who is also a pilot..." as though a lawyer who happens to have a PPL and 200 hours on a Bonanza is qualified to make statemets about airline ops.:rolleyes:
agreed.....

muushin 02-27-2009 05:22 PM
At the end of the day,the autopilot usage into known icing, is the fly in the ointment.

Lowlevel 02-27-2009 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by mooney (Post 568535)
I love it how they always manage to say "thee lawyer, who is also a pilot..." as though a lawyer who happens to have a PPL and 200 hours on a Bonanza is qualified to make statemets about airline ops.:rolleyes:
The lawyer, if it is the same Ronald Goldman, has been an lawyer since 1963, and specialized in aviation law since 1969. He is a partner in Baum, Hedlund, Aristei and Goldman. He has had many high profile cases, he even served on the Plaintiff's Executive Committee for the 9/11 cases. He was a layer on the Air Midwest 5481 crash in 2003.
He became a private pilot in 1980, not sure how many hours he has.

Lab Rat 02-27-2009 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 568568)
They're just filing. The actual trial will probably take place maybe a year from now when they have their facts straight. There is no jury that would give them any major compensation without knowing what happened.
Remember, you can sue AND win for spilling coffee on yourself. The only crime? A business using hot water to make coffee.

Lab Rat 02-27-2009 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by mooney (Post 568535)
I love it how they always manage to say "thee lawyer, who is also a pilot..." as though a lawyer who happens to have a PPL and 200 hours on a Bonanza is qualified to make statemets about airline ops.:rolleyes:
He may not be able to make qualified statements about airline ops, but I'm guessing he can produce very credible witnesses who can. It's not his flying abilities that win lawsuits, it's his experience and expertise as an attorney.

ExperimentalAB 02-27-2009 05:56 PM
Do y'all actually think there is any real justice involved? As some have eluded to, it is simply a matter of who plays the game better...


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