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Old 02-27-2009 | 01:42 PM
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Airlines, plane maker sued over crash near Buffalo - Yahoo! News

Very sad that this happening. The OFFICIAL cause hasn't been determined, and people are already jumping to conclusions. Very sad for the family of both the crew, and pax.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Airlines, plane maker sued over crash near Buffalo - Yahoo! News

Very sad that this happening. The OFFICIAL cause hasn't been determined, and people are already jumping to conclusions. Very sad for the family of both the crew, and pax.
I hate to say it but if my family was on that plane, I can't say I wouldn't be wanting to hold someone accountable (pending cause) This airplane does not have a great safety record and these Pilots, as well as Colgan's training will be thoroughly examined.

I don't know what caused this crash but if it is either the Pilot's doing, or the Airplanes the LAWSUITS will fly and they will be successful in court/ or have very large settlements......

I flew a lot of the victims families from BUF-EWR yesterday and it was so sad they were a mess, I can't say I blame them for wanting some answers, and unfortunately filing a lawsuit is one of the ways people get what they feel they need to be properly "made whole".
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Old 02-27-2009 | 01:55 PM
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I love it how they always manage to say "thee lawyer, who is also a pilot..." as though a lawyer who happens to have a PPL and 200 hours on a Bonanza is qualified to make statemets about airline ops.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:02 PM
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I guess all he'd need to be qualified is the CPL and 250 hrs. Anyway, poor taste, sorry. I'm with SAAB on this one. Probably pretty standard procedure nowadays in any accident, not just aviation. Sorry for the families involved, and hope the investigation is able to prevent anything similar.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:10 PM
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Two records came up for Ronald Goldman in a search of the FAA pilot database. Both private pilots. They may not have been him, but that is what I found.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:16 PM
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wasn't this the guys name who was killed by OJ????????/
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:25 PM
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This will certainly not be the last as I would assume that the majority of those onboard will eventually sue as it will be guaranteed money. This is a blanket law suit where they will go after all of the high rollers to ensure the most amount of money knowing that in time only 1 or so of the defendants will actually be found liable.

on a side note...notice the embraer tail in the photo?
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
I hate to say it but if my family was on that plane, I can't say I wouldn't be wanting to hold someone accountable (pending cause) This airplane does not have a great safety record and these Pilots, as well as Colgan's training will be thoroughly examined.

I don't know what caused this crash but if it is either the Pilot's doing, or the Airplanes the LAWSUITS will fly and they will be successful in court/ or have very large settlements......

I flew a lot of the victims families from BUF-EWR yesterday and it was so sad they were a mess, I can't say I blame them for wanting some answers, and unfortunately filing a lawsuit is one of the ways people get what they feel they need to be properly "made whole".
I won't dispute that Colgan treats it's crewmembers like crap, and that a review of their training and maintenance program is definitely in order. However, I still know some people who fly the Q400 for Horizon, and they say it's a great airplane, as is the entire Dash-8 series. As I recall, this is the first fatal accident for the Q400 model, and the only other incidents I've heard of were the gear problems that SAS had in Europe with theirs. I thought I read somewhere that those incidents had more to do with the SAS maintenance program than anything with the aircraft. We don't even know for sure that it was a problem with the aircraft that caused the crash. I feel for the families, and I would want answers too, but they really should change the laws so that no one can file any sort of lawsuit until the NTSB concludes the investigation and releases a probable cause. Even then, the lawsuit should be limited to the party/parties identified by the NTSB as being directly responsible. If the accident is caused by a freak event of nature (i.e, US Air in the Hudson due to birds,) then no lawsuit may be filed at all, regardless of injuries sustained or fatalities.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:39 PM
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They're just filing. The actual trial will probably take place maybe a year from now when they have their facts straight. There is no jury that would give them any major compensation without knowing what happened.
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Old 02-27-2009 | 02:46 PM
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I won't dispute that Colgan treats it's crewmembers like crap, and that a review of their training and maintenance program is definitely in order. However, I still know some people who fly the Q400 for Horizon, and they say it's a great airplane, as is the entire Dash-8 series. As I recall, this is the first fatal accident for the Q400 model, and the only other incidents I've heard of were the gear problems that SAS had in Europe with theirs. I thought I read somewhere that those incidents had more to do with the SAS maintenance program than anything with the aircraft. We don't even know for sure that it was a problem with the aircraft that caused the crash. I feel for the families, and I would want answers too, but they really should change the laws so that no one can file any sort of lawsuit until the NTSB concludes the investigation and releases a probable cause. Even then, the lawsuit should be limited to the party/parties identified by the NTSB as being directly responsible. If the accident is caused by a freak event of nature (i.e, US Air in the Hudson due to birds,) then no lawsuit may be filed at all, regardless of injuries sustained or fatalities.
I agree, the Q400 is flown into places where I would imagine moderate ICE is the norm..........
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