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Old 03-10-2009, 12:28 PM
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Any of the SkyWest ALPA guys know why the website is down?
http://www.skywestalpa.org/

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Old 03-10-2009, 12:39 PM
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Maybe they're re-organizing? LoL

Haven't seen you around these parts in ages...!
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:02 PM
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Maybe they're re-organizing? LoL

Haven't seen you around these parts in ages...!
haha, yeah I know. I've been staying busy with life. I was just getting a little upset with some of the sutff on the SAPA forums. The "why should I take a pay cut for you" guys are just too much for me. I can't stand the idea of talking about "F" with PBS still giving 90+ lines out to the senior folks. PBS 87 credit???? ...only if it can. IT CAN'T during these times. Company guarantees 75!! NO more NO less. The fact that these guys (me included) got used too high times lines and were living the good life and b*itching about it now and just want to can the bottom group. It's just too much! What ever happen to "hey let's can stand together. 75 hours. No opentime pickup, and get that VLA out there." Man I'm telling you, you might get shot for saying something like that in the SLC crew room. Sorry man, just had to vent. I was hoping to talk to some of the union organizing guys about some ideas but found the website INOP.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:30 PM
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Default Salt Lake City . . .

I truly hope the "I got mine . . . too bad for the rest of you" mentality in SLC changes.

I have more than a feeling that with Delta today announcing a 10% reduction in international capacity for the last four months of 2009 SLC will begin to feel more of the pinch like some of the other domiciles are already feeling.

Seniority has its privileges but not being a team player when economic times are tough is absolutely without excuse.

I only hope St. George continues to take a compassionate approach to those FO's and CA's at the bottom of their respective seniority lists.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:31 PM
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Hate to say it, but I don't think ALPA will help you out here....we're back to 85-90 hr lines and 10+ min reserve days this month after furloughing 80. The same people you are frustrated with there are just as much an influence in ALPA.

Not trying to discourage ALPA, just don't think it will help on this issue in this climate.
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I hear ya man...and I don't mind so much the reduction in block hours, but efficiency has gone through the floor. I'm working another four days a month for fifteen fewer hours of pay...how are the lines in your neck of the woods?
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I hear ya man...and I don't mind so much the reduction in block hours, but efficiency has gone through the floor. I'm working another four days a month for fifteen fewer hours of pay...how are the lines in your neck of the woods?
I don't really blame the company for that...with less frequency, there are fewer options to fill up our work days and still position crews for the AM departure. But I wish we had trip rigs.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:10 PM
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The attitude that was mentioned above regarding SkyWest was right on. It is disgusting that guys have that attitude and is the major reason why a union will never work there; no unity.

On the SAPA forums, I mentioned seeing who would allow PBS to build them a line down to 65 hours. Guys probably had a heart attacks thinking that this may happen. My thought was that if enough guys VOLUNTEERED to allow PBS to build them a 65 hour we could keep people on property. Not everyone would have to sacrifice their 75 guarantee, only the ones willing to. I thought I was going to get shot the way guys acted on there.

Anyways, I guess the VLA is out and we'll see how that goes.
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:24 AM
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Default 65 hours . . .

While economically it might be a little uncomfortable, I personally would vote IN FAVOR of reducing PBS line awards to 65 hours if that meant keeping pilots working.

If we as pilots will not help each other out when times get tough, then certainly no one will. The content of a pilots character reveals itself when time are tough, not when times are good.

I feel very fortunate to fly for Skywest right now. With our new Voluntary Leave of Absence (VLA) policy I strongly feel that our management in St. George is standing by our pilots. Personally, I never really doubted that our management would make a choice that costs the company more money but substantially helps out those who take a VLA.

The day Jerry Atkins (our CEO) leaves Skywest, is the day Skywest is no longer the best regional flying. (In my opinion)
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Koolaidman View Post
The attitude that was mentioned above regarding SkyWest was right on. It is disgusting that guys have that attitude and is the major reason why a union will never work there; no unity.
This goes at ANY company, ALPA or not. ALPA is not the wonderful quick fix people think it is. Look at Mesa. It will also take years at Colgan for ALPA to make any major changes. ALPA is only as strong as the senior folk at any airline let it be, and it usually has the same results as you mentioned above.
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