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Old 04-03-2009 | 07:39 AM
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I'm not mad at you, I just think you are uninformed.
Quite the contrary, I'm very well informed.

I think you are mad at me, or maybe just a little guilty for your laziness. I used to not care about any of this kind of stuff either, until some of my reading educated me about the current state and rate of decline of our environment.
I'm actually quite content in my laziness.

Environmentalism = Agenda. If you scare people into thinking the earth is in peril due to man, then you are able to control lives and earn money through things such as movies, books, and taxes.

Science tells us the earth is fine. The scientists who hold to a leftist-environmental agenda are telling us something completely different. The ability to accurately differentiate between the two is directly proportional to the level of education the person holds on this subject.

I think you are mad at me
No,no, and no, I'm not mad at you.

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Old 04-03-2009 | 07:48 AM
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Bring those cans to michigan... 10 cents a can...
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Old 04-03-2009 | 07:53 AM
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Bring those cans to michigan... 10 cents a can...
With gas at $1.88/gallon, they would have to offer much more than a dime per can to make the trip worth it.

On a serious note, it wouldn't be a bad idea to donate the cans to a place such as a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter. The refunds they receive from the cans would help their cause.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 08:56 AM
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i remember working on the ramp in DTW for Mesaba there was a few ramp agents would stay almost 4 hrs extra on the night shifts collecting cans from the trash dumpsters (yea they were dumpster diving for the most part) collecting cans from the 747s. They would collect at times 5 to 10 garbage bags full of cans and would turn them in. Was told that Mesaba nor NW or any of the other airlines at DTW really cared since they "put them in the trash" so they had the right to collect them. They claimed they made upwards of 5000 a month just on cans (from what I remember). Could only imagine what a major airline and all the cans they go thru how much "extra income" they could produce from recycling those cans.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 09:41 AM
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The only thing my airline recycles are BS contract proposals...
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Old 04-03-2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Led Zep
Quite the contrary, I'm very well informed.


I'm actually quite content in my laziness.

Environmentalism = Agenda. If you scare people into thinking the earth is in peril due to man, then you are able to control lives and earn money through things such as movies, books, and taxes.

Science tells us the earth is fine. The scientists who hold to a leftist-environmental agenda are telling us something completely different. The ability to accurately differentiate between the two is directly proportional to the level of education the person holds on this subject.


No,no, and no, I'm not mad at you.
There is an even larger agenda to keep people from believing that thier actions are destroying the planet. There are many corperations who don't want you to think that we are destructive in our actions. They have you convinced that you cannot harm the planet. Yes, it does take effeort to do things like recycle and drive less, but tell me who is going to gain from that? I'll tell you, we all will. Instead of labeling a point a veiw from the right or left, why don't we try to take in the information and use our own brains to figure out how to interpret it, instead of pre-judging information based on what biased people have to say. We won't destroy the planet if we continue on this way, but we will destroy a sustainable place for human beings to survive.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ebl14
There is an even larger agenda to keep people from believing that thier actions are destroying the planet. There are many corperations who don't want you to think that we are destructive in our actions. They have you convinced that you cannot harm the planet. Yes, it does take effeort to do things like recycle and drive less, but tell me who is going to gain from that? I'll tell you, we all will. Instead of labeling a point a veiw from the right or left, why don't we try to take in the information and use our own brains to figure out how to interpret it, instead of pre-judging information based on what biased people have to say. We won't destroy the planet if we continue on this way, but we will destroy a sustainable place for human beings to survive.
There is an even larger agenda to keep people from believing that thier actions are destroying the planet. There are many corperations who don't want you to think that we are destructive in our actions. They have you convinced that you cannot harm the planet.
Actually, I have me convinced that I cannot harm the planet. I've made up my own mind on the subject based on scientific evidence as opposed to what the environmentalists want me to hear. The verdict: man cannot destroy nor save the planet - it is what it is.

Instead of labeling a point a veiw from the right or left, why don't we try to take in the information and use our own brains to figure out how to interpret it, instead of pre-judging information based on what biased people have to say.
Reference my above response. Also, review my earlier post where I said knowing the difference between what real science is saying versus what agenda-driven scientists want people to believe is the level of education of the individual. In essence, I have heeded your advice many times over and the conclusions are identical: the earth is fine. And the "biased people" I have boldfaced in your quote are the agenda-driven environmentalists who guise themselves as scientists.

We won't destroy the planet if we continue on this way, but we will destroy a sustainable place for human beings to survive.
I don't know you so I obviously am not directing this next comment at you. But, I do personally know several people who hold this exact position with regards to the planet. In one simple word, they are scared. They live their lives constantly worrying about the planet and busying themselves with ways to further "help it along". That's a lot of energy being expended into what I see as a not-worthwhile cause.

Contrast that with my attitude. Life is short, the planet is fine, so enjoy yourself and worry not.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 02:11 PM
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Contrast that with my attitude. Life is short, the planet is fine, so enjoy yourself and worry not.
You are right, the planet is fine. The planet is a hunk of rock and molten rock surrounded by an atmosphere made up mostly of nitrogen, then oxygen, hurling through our solar system. You are right, we will not destory the planet. But we may make the planet less habitable, more comparable to venus or mars. The issue isn't about you or me, we will not see sufficent degradation of our habitat (if we are lucky). The issue is about our children and espicially their children. Going back to my origional post, you and I as individuals can only do so much, but the companies that we work for can do much more than any one person. I, for one, understand that there will be some who are set in their ways (like you), who refuse to acknowledge numerous studies that indicate our human effect on the environment. That is fine, those of us who are progressive thinkers and who care about the world we leave to our children will push on in spite of those with your viewpoint. And we will try to make the corperations that we work for be good citizens of planet earth as well.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Led Zep
Actually, I have me convinced that I cannot harm the planet. I've made up my own mind on the subject based on scientific evidence as opposed to what the environmentalists want me to hear. The verdict: man cannot destroy nor save the planet - it is what it is.


Reference my above response. Also, review my earlier post where I said knowing the difference between what real science is saying versus what agenda-driven scientists want people to believe is the level of education of the individual. In essence, I have heeded your advice many times over and the conclusions are identical: the earth is fine. And the "biased people" I have boldfaced in your quote are the agenda-driven environmentalists who guise themselves as scientists.


I don't know you so I obviously am not directing this next comment at you. But, I do personally know several people who hold this exact position with regards to the planet. In one simple word, they are scared. They live their lives constantly worrying about the planet and busying themselves with ways to further "help it along". That's a lot of energy being expended into what I see as a not-worthwhile cause.

Contrast that with my attitude. Life is short, the planet is fine, so enjoy yourself and worry not.
Wow! Did you come up with this lovely point of view all on your own or did Rush Limbaugh give it to you?

Man cannot destroy the planet? Apparently you need a lesson in nuclear fission my friend.
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Old 04-03-2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ebl14
You are right, the planet is fine. The planet is a hunk of rock and molten rock surrounded by an atmosphere made up mostly of nitrogen, then oxygen, hurling through our solar system. You are right, we will not destory the planet. But we may make the planet less habitable, more comparable to venus or mars. The issue isn't about you or me, we will not see sufficent degradation of our habitat (if we are lucky). The issue is about our children and espicially their children. Going back to my origional post, you and I as individuals can only do so much, but the companies that we work for can do much more than any one person. I, for one, understand that there will be some who are set in their ways (like you), who refuse to acknowledge numerous studies that indicate our human effect on the environment. That is fine, those of us who are progressive thinkers and who care about the world we leave to our children will push on in spite of those with your viewpoint. And we will try to make the corperations that we work for be good citizens of planet earth as well.
That is fine, those of us who are progressive thinkers and who care about the world we leave to our children will push on in spite of those with your viewpoint. And we will try to make the corperations that we work for be good citizens of planet earth as well.
As a "progressive thinker" you might want to consider taking a spelling course. It is corporation, not corperation.
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