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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 2612001)
More like rebels without a clue. They'll write 10 paragraphs to try to justify being cheap f%cks then claim they don't care what anybody else thinks. lol
Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 2605067)
We know, cheap fu#ks usually have no shame. People tend to want to be judged just on their best qualities. Unfortunately that is not how the real world works.
Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 2605146)
Rebel without a clue.
Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
(Post 2610343)
It says a lot about your character, period. Of course it doesn't bother you. Cheap f#cks like you have no shame.
Either you’re a hotel van driver or a proponent of superfluous tipping. Either way you’ve made your point. Move on. |
Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
(Post 2611734)
Seriously.......how is this thread still a thing?
The title may as well be “do you wash your hands after using the bathroom?” It’s a personal choice, but decent people do it, and we all notice if you don’t. That may not bother you, which says even more about what kind of person you are. And that observation applies to broader society as well. I have noticed that a pretty large % of males do not wash their hands when leaving the restroom. That’s just naaaasty! It is a lot like the non-tipping thing. Too many people just don’t care that others are in the world-and their actions actually affect other people. |
Originally Posted by jtsastre
(Post 2612066)
Man, we get it.
Either you’re a hotel van driver or a proponent of superfluous tipping. Either way you’ve made your point. Move on. |
Originally Posted by jcountry
(Post 2612110)
Very good analogy.
And that observation applies to broader society as well. I have noticed that a pretty large % of males do not wash their hands when leaving the restroom. That’s just naaaasty! It is a lot like the non-tipping thing. Too many people just don’t care that others are in the world-and their actions actually affect other people. These same men go out and grab door handles, shake hands and pour milk at Starbucks. |
Originally Posted by Bravix
(Post 2611865)
Nope, I don't tip. Happily load my bags into the back of the van myself thanks, I don't need someone to do that menial task for me. I've worked plenty of minimum wage (or near minimum wage) service jobs which entailed far more than just driving a van and loading bags, and never expected a tip.
I mean seriously, do you tip the person bagging your food at the store? The fueler who comes up and confirms your fuel load before darting off? The airport janitor when you're leaving the restroom? The plane cleaners that come in after the flight (depending on carrier :p ). There are jobs far more deserving of a tip that don't expect one, and they don't necessarily make more than the van driver. I've also worked as a shuttle driver by the way, just not for a hotel. Never expected any tips. Ridiculous. Maybe I will when I'm not swimming in debt and want to share the wealth a bit. But that would be voluntarily sharing, not some arbitrary requirement that for some reason only applies to van drivers. |
How about a tip jar while pax deboard? If you go out of your way to grease it on....get a better altitude for turbulence...etc
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2612111)
An example of superfluous tipping would be tipping your doctor. Tipping a hotel van driver is considered a socially recognized practice.
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Originally Posted by Floobs
(Post 2612217)
Then how come the only people who do it are air crews?
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If the person provides a personal service, bags, serve food/drinks, clean up your mess; in the US, they get a tip. It’s a societal norm, but that varies around the world. In Russia, hand the ground crew a carton of Marlboros and they’ll move mountains to move things along. By the way, yes I tipped the fueler, the lab service guy and the driver. Expensed it, too. To Insure Promptness, works
At EAL, we had a captain who would gather up the cash for dinner from the crew, pay on his credit card bill and add a meager tip. Any place with slow service was remarked by, BOS Captain Frank was here”. Which was very true in PDX, where nary a waiter was was seen until the owner came out and said, “ask Captain Frank why you’re not welcome here”. Tipping is social lubricant. GF |
Originally Posted by Floobs
(Post 2612217)
Then how come the only people who do it are air crews?
Being the only (or at least one of few) people participating in this thread who were actually hotel shuttle van drivers - I can tell you most tipped - and usually MORE than the airline crews (specifically the $0.50 that the SW FAs tipped in my day) |
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