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Roper92 05-18-2009 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 612787)
No... Embarrassing is being in ATL yesterday and seeing a Pinnacle pilot with big old "Dog the Bounty Hunter style" sunglasses sitting on the back of his head, a huge silver belt buckle, Doc Martin style shoes, and listening an MP3 player while walking through the terminal. Embarrassing is seeing pilots walk through a terminal with their shirts dirty and half untucked. Embarrassing are the past couple of accidents, and how pilots had total disregard for flying their aircraft safely. Have some pride in yourself and your career (regardless of how much you make) and the public perception will shift.

I'm very proud to be a professional pilot, and you'll see that pride in everything I do related to my career. If you're not proud to be in this career, you should switch careers.

Could not have said it better myself. It is almost always amongst the regional pilot ranks as well. It makes the rest of the regional pilots who take pride in how they present themselves as an airline pilot look bad. I especially love the sunglasses on the head, the ipods, the numerous livestrong type bracelets (one is enough and the livestrong one is out), improperly colored shoes and or/belt (silver goes with silver and white bars, gold goes with gold bars), white socks, long hair, and 3-day old beard (i'll let a day old slide on the fact that they may have a reduced rest overnight). If you are one of these, please stop. I know it won't increase our pay and won't make us look "more experienced", but it will make us look more professional as a whole.

Cycle Pilot 05-18-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by IndyAir Guy (Post 612814)
I agree to a point, though its near impossible not to have a wrinkled shirt after flying 8 legs in 15 hours with no APU. Its difficult not to have a stain of oil/grim on the back of your shirt after preflighting 8 times. Its very hard not to have stains on your shirt from the fast food you had to eat on the flight deck during your cruise which was only 15 mins.

Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.

Ok... maybe the shirt stain comment was a little off. I know about shirt stains from a preflight... I fly the -88! :)

J4000 05-18-2009 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by heading180 (Post 612811)
I agree totally. If you put credit card readers in the cockpits of some of these planes... and require payment by the pilot in order to complete the starting engine checklist... half of these guys on here would probably swipe until the magnetic strip right wears right off.


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 612813)
Let's be reasonable, I'm sure we can come up with some sort of flat rate deal.

That was funny. I lol'ed.

dwightkschrute 05-18-2009 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 612819)
If you're getting oil on your shift after 8 CRJ preflights, you're probably doing it wrong. :D


Try avoiding it on the FFOD now when the TSA requires the aft equipment bay checked

dwightkschrute 05-18-2009 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 612819)
If you're getting oil on your shift after 8 CRJ preflights, you're probably doing it wrong. :D


Try avoiding it on the FFOD now when the TSA requires the aft equipment bay checked

Herbie 05-18-2009 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 612798)
You, like dozens of other pilots with your mindset, are the reason why our profession will never improve. If we all unifiy together to improve our work rules, this profession could improve.

Sadly, there are too many pilots who still have not gotten into the 121 world, and are impatiently waiting to do anything possible to get there (or others like you who had a brief taste).

After being abused for 6 or 7 years though, you will realize how badly things need to improve. But it will be too late, some eager young flight instructor will be more than willing to replace you at your job and fly for a terrible contract for pennies on the dollar. The cycle repeats itself again.

It is obvious that my post was taken in the wrong context by most everyone that has read it so far. I do not want to accept under par wages in this industry any more than anyone else that has put so much of their time and energy in to it. But pride and pay are two different things.

I am not willing to take a job at the expense of someone else by doing it cheaper just for the sake of being able to fly an airplane. If I felt that way, I would have applied across the hall when I found out that I was getting furloughed. However, I enjoy what I do for a living and I am proud of the fact that I am a pilot. It has nothing to do with whose airplane I am flying, it is just simple pride in the work that I do, period.

And I would much rather be on the payroll right now as opposed to being furloughed so that I would be able to cast my vote for a strike in an effort to try and improve things. It is time that we take a stand, stand together, and let management know that we are here for the fight, and we either negotiate a fair contract or we walk.

Don't misunderstand what I am saying as what many people new to the industry are willing to do. I was abused part 135, abused part 121 for the last 2 years and I am happier sitting on my couch at home than helping contribute to the demise of the indsutry. I am just bummed about being on the ground on such a nice day, that is all.

jeforte 05-18-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by jeepcrawln (Post 612807)
So are you trying to say that you had no idea about the pay until the Colgan accident, if so you're a little behind the curve there.....I refuse to agree with the comment that regional pilots have "low pilot skills", some have made bad decisions but the skills were there.

Explain that to the passengers on 3407

*for some, not all

Salukipilot4590 05-18-2009 12:12 PM

I complain a lot but I would rather do nothing else (Other than maybe a life as a blues/rock-funk guitarist)!

dwightkschrute 05-18-2009 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Herbie (Post 612928)
Don't misunderstand what I am saying as what many people new to the industry are willing to do. I was abused part 135, abused part 121 for the last 2 years and I am happier sitting on my couch at home than helping contribute to the demise of the indsutry. I am just bummed about being on the ground on such a nice day, that is all.


I was abused before I was furloughed and again since I've been back. I was much happier being unemployed getting to do whatever I wanted whenever I chose. But in the long run I'll be much happier with a steady paycheck and building flight time.

577nitro 05-18-2009 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by buffalopilot (Post 612783)
And thats why conditions will never improve, always someone to take your place for subpar wages and qol. Management loves this.

Will if flying wasn't the most fun one can have with your pants on, I guess we won't have this problem either. :p


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