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N118NW 05-21-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 614346)
I highly doubt they will go out of business, however, if they get enough bad press they may change the name of the company. i.e. valuejet -> airtran

Airtran is not Valuejet. The two companies merged but other than staffing and routes, nothing else remained.

The Juice 05-21-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by N118NW (Post 614471)
Airtran is not Valuejet. The two companies merged but other than staffing and routes, nothing else remained.

Technically you a correct, it was a merger. But it was simply a way for ValueJet to change face by merging with the smaller AirTran. But dont kid yourself by thinking the merger was nothing more than a name change due to bad publicity.

N118NW 05-21-2009 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 614481)
Technically you a correct, it was a merger. But it was simply a way for ValueJet to change face by merging with the smaller AirTran. But dont kid yourself by thinking the merger was nothing more than a name change due to bad publicity.

It was more than that. Airtran was already an airline before they merged with Valuejet.

NWA320pilot 05-21-2009 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by N118NW (Post 614488)
It was more than that. Airtran was already an airline before they merged with Valuejet.

Valuejet had many restrictios on its certificate after the everglades accident. By purchasing Air-Tran and turning in the Valuejet certificate basically they got oout of all of the restrictions placed upon it by the FAA. It was basically a BIG loophole......

sinsilvia666 05-22-2009 01:58 PM

i agree w bass slayer

newarkblows 05-22-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 614398)
Are you serious man? First, how is Pinnacle Corp going to find another carrier to fly the Q's? Do you think they will just say "hey ASA you want some Q's to fly for us.?"

Second you sound like the media when you say the FAA is questioning Colgan's ability to fly the Q. \


simple... in most cpa's with airlines there are catch all phrases that allow the main company to ditch the contract in the event of "adverse" conditions. The PR Cluster that is colgan right now could very well give CAL all it needs to re-evaluate your companies contract. Those airplanes arent on property yet and stranger things have happened.

I'd hate to break it to you but your company is under a lot more scrutiny then just the media. How did pilots get "screened" and yet the company didnt know that he failed a bunch of check rides? how does a company justify paying a pilot in the ny or washington dc area under 20 grand a year? why is that pilot willing to give away their skills for practically free? are they that bad of a pilot? your maintenance issues alone have brought you into the FAA's sights.... million questions and one answer. Colgan is a Horrible company. It would be a good thing if they went out of business.

greaper007 05-22-2009 04:33 PM

Newark, as a Colgan employee I dislike the company as much as you do. However, is a measly 5,000-10,000 more a year that you guys make really that much of a difference? I'm living in Hartford which is considerably cheaper than NY or DC. My family still needs about 80,000 a year just to break even with our loans and the cost of living.

All regional airlines are crap. Lets focus our power on the man, not each other. That goes for the mainline guys also. Personally, I'm seriously about 5 seconds away from pulling a "John Galt" on this whole industry. It's really not worth it.

rjjunkie 05-22-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by greaper007 (Post 615660)
Newark, as a Colgan employee I dislike the company as much as you do. However, is a measly 5,000-10,000 more a year that you guys make really that much of a difference? I'm living in Hartford which is considerably cheaper than NY or DC. My family still needs about 80,000 a year just to break even with our loans and the cost of living.

All regional airlines are crap. Lets focus our power on the man, not each other. That goes for the mainline guys also. Personally, I'm seriously about 5 seconds away from pulling a "John Galt" on this whole industry. It's really not worth it.

jg the only thing you'll stop is the motor on your "dash," until the next guy comes around. oohh and you'd stop that pay check ... SEE YA !!! Anything in newark blows...including the next guy.;)

The Juice 05-22-2009 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by greaper007 (Post 615660)
Newark, as a Colgan employee I dislike the company as much as you do. However, is a measly 5,000-10,000 more a year that you guys make really that much of a difference? I'm living in Hartford which is considerably cheaper than NY or DC. My family still needs about 80,000 a year just to break even with our loans and the cost of living.

All regional airlines are crap. Lets focus our power on the man, not each other. That goes for the mainline guys also. Personally, I'm seriously about 5 seconds away from pulling a "John Galt" on this whole industry. It's really not worth it.

You are correct. NewarkBlows is and has always been anti Colgan because he works for the coolest airline around. I do not bother responding to him because it is not worth the headache. Again, he works for a cool airline who would love nothing more than CAL to decide to drop the Q's for the gas sucking RJ's (check out how much oil has gone up the last 3 months).

Look at his previous posts and it is all anti-everyone. Colgan sucks, GS sucks, GL sucks, Republic sucks, everyone sucks. He is a negative person, even his screen name is negative.

rjjunkie 05-22-2009 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 615668)
You are correct. NewarkBlows is and has always been anti Colgan because he works for the coolest airline around. I do not bother responding to him because it is not worth the headache. Again, he works for a cool airline who would love nothing more than CAL to decide to drop the Q's for the gas sucking RJ's (check out how much oil has gone up the last 3 months).

Look at his previous posts and it is all anti-everyone. Colgan sucks, GS sucks, GL sucks, Republic sucks, everyone sucks. He is a negative person, even his screen name is negative.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_G--MKSZpj_...er+griffin.jpg go on.....


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