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JoeyMeatballs 06-02-2009 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 621219)
What stations did they outsource to Eagle? hahe, usually it the other way around. They have been really screwing the AA ramp and gate. They have been laying those people off to have Eagle come in and do the job for less.

I don't know the specifics but I know XJT is taking some back, what a mess. I guess now they can hire back those same people for much less, I don't know very sad and low if you ask me

Smash312 06-02-2009 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 621086)
They'll happily bid, not one backfill. They're all scabs in my eyes.

So much for "we're in negotiations for payrates". D'oh.

Hahahah - you obviously don't know the meaning. Call them something else p*icks, as*holes anything else, but why do people insist on calling the SCABS? If you don't know the context the word is used in then don't use it. Please.

Trogdor 06-02-2009 09:39 AM

Time will tell if all the Republic pilots truly are against this as they have said. Let's hope for the sake of the industry that the 10 most junior crews have to be displaced to MKE.

N5139 06-02-2009 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 621154)
The CHQ 2003 contract went into effect October 1st, 2003.

This was the same day the ARW 2003 concessionary contract went into effect (I believe ARW was ratified by membership shortly before the CHQ contract), and shortly after the MAG 2003 hunk-o-crap went into effect.

For the 79-99 seat airframe, the RAH captain rates are above the concessionary ARW B146 rates in year 3 longevity and beyond. I think given the climate of regional airline pilot negotiations in 2003, they did the very best they could do (and edging out the concessionary ARW rates for comparable-sized airplanes was pretty good during that time IMO).

Of course, the single FO rate regardless of airframe size leaves much to be desired and lags ARW FO rates on the CL65 and B146 by a fair margin.

Nobody said jack about ARW flying the 88-100 seat B146 for "peanuts" from 2003 to when the airplanes went away Easter 2006...but now the chorus rises when oft-hated Republic gets similar sized airplanes.

I'm not saying the pay for these kinds of airplanes shouldn't be higher, but geez people...get some perspective.

Agree with you partially. However, ARW'S work rules blow RAH's out of the water, and offer MUCH more equity to its pilot group. Rigs, cancellation pay, and the lack of a PBS system allows ARW pilots to make much more than the standard "multiply your hourly wage by 1,000" formula. Being able to trip-touch 7 days of primary vacation into 18 consecutive days off and pick up several four-days for 150% pay is certainly better than anything PBS can offer. Even ARW crews deserve more, too!

BoilerUP 06-02-2009 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by N5139 (Post 621368)
Agree with you partially. However, ARW'S work rules blow RAH's out of the water, and offer MUCH more equity to its pilot group. Rigs, cancellation pay, and the lack of a PBS system allows ARW pilots to make much more than the standard "multiply your hourly wage by 1,000" formula. Being able to trip-touch 7 days of primary vacation into 18 consecutive days off and pick up several four-days for 150% pay is certainly better than anything PBS can offer. Even ARW crews deserve more, too!

I'm aware of all that...I used to work there!

There's no denying that ARW's work rules under the concessionary agreement are superior to those in the CHQ 2003 agreement.

There's also no denying (although many ignore or are ignorant to the fact) that Chautauqua pilots had to sacrifice A LOT of negotiating capital in 2003 in order to achieve scope securing one seniority list to kill the threat of non-union Republic Airlines being formed and taking their US Airways E145 flying.

The negotiating capital spent to secure one list could have, under other less job-threatening circumstances, been used to buy better work rules like rigs, CNX pay, etc. Given everything that has transpired between TSA and GoJet, I'd say it was capital well spent.

YXnot 06-02-2009 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by B1900YX (Post 620935)
Date: June 1, 2009
To: All RAH Flight Crews
From:
Re: New MKE EMB 190 Base

Republic Airways announces a new EMB 190 crew base will open August 1, 2009 in MKE. It is anticipated that this base will fly Midwest trips only and initially will be 1 and 2 day trips.

The effective date of this bid is September 1, 2009 but we expect to open MKE August 1, 2009 when our first EMB 190 goes into service. We anticipate beginning training for the positions in July.

Please keep in mind that the EMB 190 aircraft may require initial, bridge or other training as required. The initial aircraft will be delivered in a 94 seat configuration and therefore Captains will be paid based on the Captain 79-99 seat rate.

Please do not bid this position if you are unable or unwilling to accept an award!

MKE EMB 190 Republic Airline

The company is posting 10 Captain and 10 First Officer EMB 190 positions. Bids will be accepted until 1700 hours on the closing date. If interested, please update your vacancy bid in Flica. To correctly bid and to be considered for this position, please bid for MKE 190 CA or FO in Flica under Vacancy.


Vacancies will be awarded in order of seniority using standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Vacancies caused by filling this primary award will be awarded using the standing bids on file as of the date bidding is closed. Not all vacancies created by this bid award may be filled.

Please use Flica to bid. Pilot Bid closes 1700 hours on June 8, 2009.




Date: 6/1/2009

Hey B1900 while your at it please post the RAH seniority list here as well. Thats something I'd like to have in my flight bag. :D

RAHPilot5 06-02-2009 10:22 AM

oh good grief YX.:rolleyes::confused:

BTW, I'm not stupid to post any company material. Sorry if I upseted anyone with my "gag" thread. Just trying to lighten the mood. A lot of people are on pins and needles. Again, sorry!

I hope and pray that we get the pay up for the 190s. Both for the captains and for the first officers. I haven't met 1 pilot who is happy with the current pay rates so lets get this new contract out and raise the bar!!!

embpilot 06-02-2009 10:35 AM

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i wanna vomit from this whole thing

320ToBearz 06-02-2009 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Smash312 (Post 621247)
Hahahah - you obviously don't know the meaning. Call them something else p*icks, as*holes anything else, but why do people insist on calling the SCABS? If you don't know the context the word is used in then don't use it. Please.

You're right, what they are doing is worse. A scab crosses a picket line with the usual gluttony of "hey someone else is going to do it" (hey that's been said in this thread) or "i need to help my family", blah blah blah. What is different between that and what RAH is doing?

Your technicality is duly noted, however YOU ARE STEALING A JOB FROM SOMEONE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ARE CHEAPER. You are no different than New York Air, Freedom, Gojet, etc. Follow the lead of the United 400 (or whatever number there was) and say no. You are screwing your own future, but are too blinded by the shiny 190 to see it.

grdprox 06-02-2009 11:14 AM

This thread is going nowhere fast... What, are you guys trying to set a record for the most RAH threads opened and closed in a month?


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