Call The Media!!! Sully Broke Sterile!!!!!
06-10-2009, 01:45 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by snippercr
Out of curiosity, how much do commercial pilots practice total thrust lost scenarios? While during private and commercial training, we did them all the time, but I imagine a archer or 172 handles a bit differently than a larger aircraft. I know much remains the same, but when would have been the last time they practiced them? I know when I went for my ME add on, I asked about total thrust lost and my instructor said it is not considered. When I went for my MEI, I asked if I should teach total thrust lost and was told same thing.
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
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Whats to practice with loss of all engines, If you dont know to point the nose down and look for the best place to land then you shouldnt be in the pointy end.
Here, Ill right the "Loss of Thrust All Engines-Training Manual"
1 MANAGE AIRSPEED
2 KEEP GREASY SIDE DOWN
3 DONT HIT STUFF!!!
Here, Ill right the "Loss of Thrust All Engines-Training Manual"
1 MANAGE AIRSPEED
2 KEEP GREASY SIDE DOWN
3 DONT HIT STUFF!!!
06-10-2009, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Whats to practice with loss of all engines, If you dont know to point the nose down and look for the best place to land then you shouldnt be in the pointy end.
Here, Ill right the "Loss of Thrust All Engines-Training Manual"
1 MANAGE AIRSPEED
2 KEEP GREASY SIDE DOWN
3 DONT HIT STUFF!!!
Here, Ill right the "Loss of Thrust All Engines-Training Manual"
1 MANAGE AIRSPEED
2 KEEP GREASY SIDE DOWN
3 DONT HIT STUFF!!!
4. if landing in a field watch out for the friggin cows...lol
06-10-2009, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Emb170man
Pilot: Bird warnings from tower of little value - Yahoo! News
A cockpit voice recorder transcript released by the board showed Sullenberger and co-pilot Jeffrey Skiles were admiring the view of the Hudson River less than minute before their plane struck the geese and lost thrust in both engines.
"What a view of the Hudson today," Sullenberger remarked.
"Yeah," Skiles responded.
After all the ****storm from Colgan and such, it would probably come as a shock to all of America that their hero, the mighty Capt Sully, broke sterile cockpit also. Wow...I'm suprised that those 7 words didn't cause him kill everyone onboard!!!! Stupid media. I'm so sick of their witch hunt.
A cockpit voice recorder transcript released by the board showed Sullenberger and co-pilot Jeffrey Skiles were admiring the view of the Hudson River less than minute before their plane struck the geese and lost thrust in both engines.
"What a view of the Hudson today," Sullenberger remarked.
"Yeah," Skiles responded.
After all the ****storm from Colgan and such, it would probably come as a shock to all of America that their hero, the mighty Capt Sully, broke sterile cockpit also. Wow...I'm suprised that those 7 words didn't cause him kill everyone onboard!!!! Stupid media. I'm so sick of their witch hunt.
So, am I to understand that you're as happy and comfortable with the CVR transcript and airmanship of the Colgan crew as you are with that of Sully's flight?! Night and day.
06-11-2009, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
He was just remarking as to the good visibility surrounding his eventual landing site. Very apropos thing to discuss in a sterile cockpit.
So, am I to understand that you're as happy and comfortable with the CVR transcript and airmanship of the Colgan crew as you are with that of Sully's flight?! Night and day.
So, am I to understand that you're as happy and comfortable with the CVR transcript and airmanship of the Colgan crew as you are with that of Sully's flight?! Night and day.
No I'm not saying that...but the media hype and craziness/outrage that they broke sterile cockpit...and that's why they crashed (I guess the stall had nothing to do with it) is redicilous. Sterile is broken thousands of times every day...not saying it should be...but it is. A little comment about something on the way in, a question about whether the other guy is gonna grab something to eat during the sit, or just the end of a conversation started at 12000ft...it happens on almost every flight I've been on either as a jumpseater (this includes mainline flights, as well as flights I've sat right seat on. The fact that I say, "man...its June...there's still snow on those mountains" and the Capt says " yup" at 9,000 does not spell the end of us. I basicly can sum up everything by saying
1. Aviation "Experts" should try getting in an airplane sometime
2. Media should report on something they know about (and aviation obviously isn't it)
3. Trying to increase ratings with the bull**** out there like asking folks who really don't have a clue whether they think regional airlines are safe...and then keep on digging until they get the answer they want (no) so they can have a great soundclip is biased journalism
4. Well...just screw the media
