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Originally Posted by robthree (Post 634312)

Perhaps the RAH pilots will learn from the Airways integration debacle and ensure that Midwest and Frontier guys are base, seat, and pay protected. Even the furloughees. If RAH is going to stop selling it to every major with an open checkbook and become an actual airline (instead of a merely a lift sub-contractor) I think the pilot group would benefit from the experience those guys have.

On the other hand RAH's pilots outnumber Midwest and Frontier pilots combined by 2 to 1. Its not inconceivable that they all get stapled to the bottom of RAH's list and Captains with 10 to 20 years experience wind up junior to RAH pilots who were literally still in diapers when these "New Hires" started at MidEx or Frontier.

THere will be no stapling, this from the Republic EXCO. The Midwest pilots will be merged via Allegheny/Mohawk and we will fight to the death for the Frontier pilots to be on the seniority list. Frankly if the Frontier pilots don't fight along with us to merge the list things will get even uglier as they will most likely be out of a job altogether when the 190's roll in and half the Buses are shelved.

Give us some breathing room to get some payscales and lock down these mergers. I know now that most all of your wildest dreams of Mesa failing seem to be on the door step you have to find someone new to beat. Just lighten up and offer something constructive instead of the crap I keep reading. And for crying out loud, you can't change anything so stop whining about it.

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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 634423)

You are naive if you think that a weak carrier (in this case Frontier and Midwest) being purchased by a stronger carrier (RAH) always turns out for the best for those at the weak carrier. I think there are a couple thousand former TWA guys who would be willing to put things in perspective for you. The short story is AA got their airplanes and their jobs while they were left in the cold.

In STL I see tons of ex TWA guys that are making nice paychecks.

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Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 634949)

I never said the airline owed furloughed pilots a job. I said, where I on furlough, I would be unhappy the company could make these aquisitions, but not be able to keep me employed. That's very different from saying the airline owes the pilots a job at the cost of aquisitions that could be beneficial for the bottom line.

Why should the airline keep you employed when there simply is not the flying available? If I own store and I have to lay off employees for lack of business, should that prevent me from purchasing the store next to mine to better my store as a whole?

I don't know if thats the best analogy, but hope you get my drift. I'm furloughed too, so I understand that the flying simply is not there to keep my employed. If my regional decided to go buy another airline, I won't get mad that thats money they could be paying me.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 635641)

In STL I see tons of ex TWA guys that are making nice paychecks.

So I guess in your view, all is well. What about the hundreds of TWA guys on the street--that you don't see--that aren't making that nice paycheck?

You, sir, are as deep as a paper plate.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 635641)

In STL I see tons of ex TWA guys that are making nice paychecks.

Nice? Relative to your paycheck, I guess it's nice.