In the past, I've not been very impresed with much of Pinnacle's operations, including a certain group in the pilot group, but today I must say that I am impressed that you have the resolve, AS A GROUP, to do what you can to say enough is enough.

If only a certain group in IND could understand what group resolve is and what the definition of "enabler" is.

Good job, Flagship and good luck in the near future!

Sounds like some people are finally taking safety more seriously around here and writing things up that should've been written up for years...from a Certain Someone's most recent message:

"Operationally, we have hit a rough patch with quite a few maintenance problems. While there is nothing specific - neither heat nor weather related - the planes are just breaking"

what a coincidence, my captain and I were just discussing this today - wasn't it just a little while back that Pinnacle had really good performance numbers? We were wondering why you guys had gone that extra mile, because it's not like phil and buddy are ones to reward their pilots for good performance.... faaaaar from it, as you and I know too well.
I totally agree with you, I work for your sister bottomfeeder but at this point I'd rather have it burn down to the ground (along with other bottomfeeders) and would be quite happy to witness this firsthand. So why don't I just quit now? Well, if I did that there are thousands of other guys who would gladly take my spot, and that wouldn't help the matter of shutting buddy down. in actuality I think the possibility of pinnacle shutting down is low (not saying it can't happen, obviously), but with the numbers getting worse, the possibility of the mgmt giving in definitely gets greater. It's an absolute shame that phil and his buddies have been dragging you guys along for 5 years! I just wish more of you guys (and us too) were willing to stand up to mgmt even if it means the risk of shutting them down (and especially because of that risk). For guys not willing to do so because they are afraid of losing their jobs, wouldn't that be a scab-like mentality? I realize these types will always exist (willing to take abuse forever because they have bills to pay... don't we all?) but I hope they are outnumbered.

As long as pilots think like this, management has us by the short hairs.

First, an unhappy Delta could benefit the pilots in the negotiation process. If Delta threatens pulling the flying, PNCL management has a choice of keeping 100% of nothing, or satisfy the pilot group and still keep 90% of Delta money.

Second, indentured servitude is not a condition to perpetuate.



Keep up the good fight!

Last two airplanes I flew.

BROKE
ACARS
Fuel Gauges
LEFT PACK
APU DOOR - Stuck open (BURN BABY BURN)
AUTO TEMP CONT
Radar ALT
CABIN LIGHTING
CATII (Why are people doing CATII checks? Company guys?)

Oh yeah. Does anyone know what happens with the FLEX Y/N in ACARS???;)

I applaud the effort, but be careful what you folks discuss on open forums.

And isn't it nice that Mr. CLIVE is acknowledging this....if you read last Fridays memo...So you couldn't acars your dispatcher...you had to fly below 250....you had to make sure the PAX didnt trip getting to their seats....and you burned an extra 200 to 400 pounds of FOB....And did you need full tanks???

Great way to save $$$

Great Ain't IT!!!!....Remember S.T.B.

This is part of CS message:

"Operationally, we have hit a rough patch with quite a few maintenance problems. While there is nothing specific - neither heat nor weather related - the planes are just breaking."

Even though I flex when I can, I Never admit it. :D

;)......................