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HercDriver130 07-02-2009 07:14 PM

Lynx Aviation
 
For what its worth.... I turned down an interview with Lynx for the 1st. Recruiter told me that they were hiring for a 13 July class... was not definite on the size. Did indicate they were only looking at applicants with in her words..... "a couple thousand hours or so...".....

Hope it works out for a few people....

Spoilers 07-02-2009 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 638801)
"a couple thousand hours or so...".....

Hope it works out for a few people....

To fly a 70 seat Dash 8 for $21/hr.

skippy 07-03-2009 03:51 AM

well, they must be really hurting-- they called my buddy on the 30th-- for a 1st interview-- he told them thats not enough time and that he was going on vacation with his family that they had planned for some time-- He asked for another date and the HR person gave him the cold shoulder.

Nice. Reall nice.

SKIPPY

BoilerUP 07-03-2009 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by Spoilers (Post 638803)
To fly a 70 seat Dash 8 for $21/hr.

Any harbor in a storm...

...and its easier to get a job when you have a job.

That said, every opening isn't for every pilot...and at least this is one more vacancy that an out-of-work pilot can fill.

Purpleanga 07-03-2009 04:26 AM

Times are tough. There's an F16 driver flying FO at lynx right now.

snopilot 07-03-2009 05:36 AM

yeah, the f16 hotshot is one helluva great guy.
Even if he is an air force turd.

I am not sure why anyone would fly for lynx. Yeah, it is a job. But, for how long? Lots of questions remain for lynx.

TheGreatChecko 07-03-2009 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by snopilot (Post 638911)
I am not sure why anyone would fly for lynx. Yeah, it is a job. But, for how long? Lots of questions remain for lynx.

Lynx has always been a place with lots of questions. I would guess a majority of the pilots were hired before they even flew one paying passenger. How's that for betting the farm?


Originally Posted by skippy (Post 638881)
well, they must be really hurting-- they called my buddy on the 30th-- for a 1st interview-- he told them thats not enough time and that he was going on vacation with his family that they had planned for some time-- He asked for another date and the HR person gave him the cold shoulder.

Nice. Reall nice.

SKIPPY

I can't say I blame them. From what I've heard they are hiring for one class and in this job market, they have absolutely no incentive to move interview days or class dates around.

I'm sure it wasn't personal, I bet all the recruiter did was go on to the next resume in the pile. Sad but true.

G2TT 07-03-2009 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 638892)
Times are tough. There's an F16 driver flying FO at lynx right now.

OMG!!!! A fighter pilot lowered themselves to being an FO at a regional? They didn't get an automatic upgrade? What is this world coming to? Now the sky truly is falling. Hate to break it to you, but there are airforce pilots from all sorts of aircraft flying as FO's at the regionals. I flew with a retired C17 aircraft commander the other day as my FO, it happens.

Waldo11 07-03-2009 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by snopilot (Post 638911)
yeah, the f16 hotshot is one helluva great guy.
Even if he is an air force turd.

Stop it - ur making me blush....

We have quite a few ex-mil: F-18 (granted if he is a Hornet driver his skills are in question :) ), U-2/T-38's, S-3's, A-10's, etc.... Everyone I've flown with both Civ and Mil has been extremely sharp.

Waldo11 07-03-2009 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by G2TT (Post 638959)
OMG!!!! A fighter pilot lowered themselves to being an FO at a regional? They didn't get an automatic upgrade? What is this world coming to? Now the sky truly is falling.

I was as surprised as you brother!!! I thought I would automatically move to CP. :)

Waldo11 07-03-2009 07:51 AM

I'm actually really enjoying my time at Lynx. We have a great pilot group, an awesome chief pilot, and I love the mountain flying. Now if I could only afford to work here.....

I'm too new to the airline biz to speculate on our future with RAH in the mix. But like someone else said, its a nice little harbour in the storm....

powrful1 07-03-2009 07:54 AM

Next year there is supposed to be another 10 aircraft right?

Waldo11 07-03-2009 08:01 AM

#11 hits the property late this month or early next. #12 is in Feb I think. Unsure of the status of the rest.

JetJock16 07-03-2009 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Waldo11 (Post 638974)
I'm actually really enjoying my time at Lynx. We have a great pilot group, an awesome chief pilot, and I love the mountain flying. Now if I could only afford to work here.....

I'm too new to the airline biz to speculate on our future with RAH in the mix. But like someone else said, its nice little harbour in the storm....

One of our most JR EMB FO's is a retired AF AWAX flight commander with more than enough heavy time to move on to anyone. I've flown several times with the guy and I must say I love his attitude. I’m sure that he and I will remain in contact even after we’ve move on to what we hope are greener pastures.

For him SKW is a safe harbor.

flyandive 07-05-2009 01:53 PM

The last class, everyone was Part 121 except for one. Three were furloughed. I hope it's a safe harbor, and yes, awesome chief pilot. We are lucky to have him, he used to be the chief over at Reno Air.

Oh, and it's to fly a 74 seat Dash 8 for $22/hr! :rolleyes:

314159 07-06-2009 01:27 PM

Interesting. I interviewed with them on the 26th for the same class. Apparently they didn't like any of us, because they said there wasn't another date to interview at the time, and they didn't let me know I didn't get it until today. I've got 2000 hours, 1000 PIC, and 2 years part 121. I thought I did well in the interview, but apparently not. I at least knew the answer to all of the technical questions, perhaps they simply didn't like me.

flyandive 07-07-2009 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by 314159 (Post 640218)
Interesting. I interviewed with them on the 26th for the same class. Apparently they didn't like any of us, because they said there wasn't another date to interview at the time, and they didn't let me know I didn't get it until today. I've got 2000 hours, 1000 PIC, and 2 years part 121. I thought I did well in the interview, but apparently not. I at least knew the answer to all of the technical questions, perhaps they simply didn't like me.

For a while the May class was going to be the last one. They canceled the June class and un-hired anybody that had been selected (They refused to create a hiring pool). Last I heard they had decided to have a July 13th class (so they re-hired a few) with the size rumored to be anywhere from 6 to 16. 6 or 10 is most likely.

Generally I have been told they only hire 1/4 of the people they interview, I don't think that is something to be proud of (just my opinion), but someone here seems to. If you interviewed and didn't get hired please don't take offense. I thought I had blown my interview, while people, like yourself seemed to do well but didn't get hired. It turns out there are some pretty specific things they are looking for.

steak pilot 07-07-2009 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Purpleanga (Post 638892)
Times are tough. There's an F16 driver flying FO at lynx right now.


Did he/she get furloghed from the Airforce.......??? LOL

Whacker77 07-07-2009 12:15 PM

Any idea how Lynx will operate with RAH owning Frontier? For that matter, does Frontier have a controlling stake in Lynx that would make it part of the RAH deal?

flyandive 07-07-2009 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 640882)
Any idea how Lynx will operate with RAH owning Frontier? For that matter, does Frontier have a controlling stake in Lynx that would make it part of the RAH deal?

Hence the million dollar question and why a lot of us were signing UTU cards the other day: WE DON'T KNOW

Also, Lynx is wholly owned by Frontier so yes we are part of the deal.

Republic: Teamsters
Midwest: ALPA
Frontier: FAPA
Lynx: ???
UTU maybe?

May the battle of the unions begin!

NutinGTMO 07-10-2009 12:56 PM

Good company to be a part of, right now, even though the pay stinks. But the way I look at it, it can only go up from here... Of course, one will have to hope that the RAH deal doesn't involve pink slips for us, then I guess the pay would go to 0...

Great group of pilots, great mountain flying, and I get to hear F-16 stories from Waldo. Rumor is that they put all those mirrors in the cockpit just for him.

Chaff, flares... continue.

Hopefully, this company is a success story and a great place to be for years to come. Time will tell.

Nevets 07-10-2009 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by flyandive (Post 641227)
Hence the million dollar question and why a lot of us were signing UTU cards the other day: WE DON'T KNOW

Also, Lynx is wholly owned by Frontier so yes we are part of the deal.

Republic: Teamsters
Midwest: ALPA
Frontier: FAPA
Lynx: ???
UTU maybe?

May the battle of the unions begin!

Why not go with ALPA?

577nitro 07-10-2009 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by NutinGTMO (Post 642672)
Good company to be a part of, right now, even though the pay stinks. But the way I look at it, it can only go up from here... Of course, one will have to hope that the RAH deal doesn't involve pink slips for us, then I guess the pay would go to 0...

Great group of pilots, great mountain flying, and I get to hear F-16 stories from Waldo. Rumor is that they put all those mirrors in the cockpit just for him.

Chaff, flares... continue.

Hopefully, this company is a success story and a great place to be for years to come. Time will tell.

So nice to hear a positive post for once. I hear Lynx is good as well, mostly from my Frontier CA hangar mate. He keeps pushing for me to talk to them. When the time is right I guess.

buddies8 07-10-2009 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 642693)
Why not go with ALPA?

Why should they. ALPA does not offer anything other than rules that ties the MEC hands. Secondly, anything that ALPA offers to an ALPA represented pilot group has a cost to it, they charge the MEC. As a non ALPA union you can still get the same services as an ALPA union except you wont have ALPA up you ass, all you have to do is pay for it, remember they charge whether you are ALPA or not.

At eagle we had requested a financial breakdown on AMR, APLA kept telling us it was not ready yet. Our MEC had visited APA president to discuss some issues on a particular day and guess what was on the APA presidents desk, the financial report that we requested which ALPA had said was not complete or ready yet.

Go independent.

Nevets 07-10-2009 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 642870)
Why should they. ALPA does not offer anything other than rules that ties the MEC hands. Secondly, anything that ALPA offers to an ALPA represented pilot group has a cost to it, they charge the MEC. As a non ALPA union you can still get the same services as an ALPA union except you wont have ALPA up you ass, all you have to do is pay for it, remember they charge whether you are ALPA or not.

At eagle we had requested a financial breakdown on AMR, APLA kept telling us it was not ready yet. Our MEC had visited APA president to discuss some issues on a particular day and guess what was on the APA presidents desk, the financial report that we requested which ALPA had said was not complete or ready yet.

Go independent.

ALPA offers more than any independent can. The cost of ALPA is not hidden. The dues are 1.95% once you are off probation. In fact, smaller MEC are subsidized by larger MEC (airlines with ~3000+ members). Also, many of the indepents pay for ALPA services...they also subsidize the cost of those services for ALPA members at the independents' pilots expence.

Anyways, it may be that ALPA Economic & Financial Analysis Department is trying to do a thorough job rather than farm it out to some third party financial analysis like some of the independents do at their members expense.

Go ALPA!

flyandive 07-10-2009 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 642693)
Why not go with ALPA?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're funny!

Oh wait, you're serious aren't you?
I'm sorry then. Actually, I was told THEY were the ones that would not talk to us.

I agree on your point about independent unions though. We just are not large enough for one, but there are other unions besides ALPA. As for Teamsters though, I have doubts if they could fairly represent us against Republic. So I guess that leaves UTU.

HawkerJet 07-20-2009 01:10 PM

"I agree on your point about independent unions though. We just are not large enough for one, but there are other unions besides ALPA. As for Teamsters though, I have doubts if they could fairly represent us against Republic. So I guess that leaves UTU."

Looks that way.

I've been told ALPA would not even return phone calls. UTU and the Teamsters did.

steak pilot 07-21-2009 06:54 PM

I'm supprised Teamsters even called you back. At Lakes, under the Teamsters regime, We got no attention on any matter; grivences would go responded to for years and the company had their way with the contract and the Pilot group.

When looking for another agent, we had three choices: stay with Teamsters, go with ALPA, or the UTU. UTU won the vote overwelmingly! Teamsters were not a good option because we were not getting ANY representation and ALPA... well, just look at Mesa, they are in worse shape than we are.

kansas 07-22-2009 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Nevets (Post 642693)
Why not go with ALPA?

Mainline union representing regional carriers=conflict of interest.

UTU yes.

rickB 07-22-2009 06:14 AM

Yes UTU! Vote UTU Yes.

Vegaspilot 07-22-2009 07:57 AM

Speaking of the vote, anyone heard when it will begin yet?

TillerEnvy 07-22-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by NutinGTMO (Post 642672)
Good company to be a part of, right now, even though the pay stinks. But the way I look at it, it can only go up from here... Of course, one will have to hope that the RAH deal doesn't involve pink slips for us, then I guess the pay would go to 0...

Lynx guys~

I'm a current RAH pilot and I'm fully expecting this deal to go through. In response to your above post, I don't think there is any way that pink slips will be handed out. What we're hearing on our end through rumors is that the Q400 operation would expand and BB is already pursuing fee-for-departure contracts with the majors to compete with Colgan. Just like us, you guys need to get your pay adjusted to where it should be and we hope for the best. Per our contract, the lists will have to be integrated, regardless of what our fearless leader wants to happen. That would hopefully allow you guys the opportunity to change equipment or to upgrade to one of our other certificates.

We finally have some people in place at Teamsters who are taking this all seriously. The top dogs were canned and are facing federal charges and we now have some good people running the show at 747. I was ready to vote them out and take ALPA, but we were asked for another chance and so far, we've been pleased. We'll see where it goes from here.

Good luck in whatever route you all go.

Tiger2Flying 07-22-2009 03:47 PM

Did they repost the FO listing a few days ago?

Husker402 07-22-2009 04:33 PM

I spoke with the Lynx recruiter a few days ago and I'm going to apply with them here soon. I already work for Frontier so I'm hoping that will count for something. From what we are hearing on the CS end of things, RAH will continue to operate all of our flights along with Lynx.

Waldo11 07-22-2009 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Husker402 (Post 649264)
I spoke with the Lynx recruiter a few days ago and I'm going to apply with them here soon. I already work for Frontier so I'm hoping that will count for something. From what we are hearing on the CS end of things, RAH will continue to operate all of our flights along with Lynx.

Any fan of such a fine piece of American cinema such as ur avatar is welcome at Lynx!

Flyboyrw 07-22-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 648989)
Lynx guys~

Per our contract, the lists will have to be integrated, regardless of what our fearless leader wants to happen. That would hopefully allow you guys the opportunity to change equipment or to upgrade to one of our other certificates.

Nobody at Lynx wants this. Nobody wants to change equipment and bring the industry down further then it already is. In fact, people are saying they will be willing to quit of this ends up happening.

Vegaspilot 07-22-2009 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboyrw (Post 649409)
Nobody at Lynx wants this. Nobody wants to change equipment and bring the industry down further then it already is. In fact, people are saying they will be willing to quit of this ends up happening.

Yeah, pretty much.

Convairator 07-23-2009 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Husker402 (Post 649264)
I spoke with the Lynx recruiter a few days ago and I'm going to apply with them here soon. I already work for Frontier so I'm hoping that will count for something. From what we are hearing on the CS end of things, RAH will continue to operate all of our flights along with Lynx.

Great avatar. Do you know why I pulled you over? Littering and................? Littering and...........?

Stew75 07-23-2009 05:03 AM

Canada huh? Almost made it.

Nevets 07-23-2009 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by kansas (Post 648854)
Mainline union representing regional carriers=conflict of interest.

UTU yes.

It is not a conflict of interest. ALL the ALPA MECs are independent of one another. No one call tell an MEC what to do or what not to do. This conflict of interest thing is a big misconception.


Originally Posted by Flyboyrw (Post 649409)
Nobody at Lynx wants this. Nobody wants to change equipment and bring the industry down further then it already is. In fact, people are saying they will be willing to quit of this ends up happening.

Would you rather be whipsawed instead?


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